Forgive me for back tracking this ol cookie convo but I d like to weigh in.
I always stick up for the cookies cause I had to just have a blast of that right cut and now I been missin her.
it can be done but no one said it would be easy. I found a pheno while back that yielded savage and had a mediocre taste even but it was practically hemp. Sounds like @Hogbackmagic found the potency but lacks yield.
My criticisms aren’t borne from the wrong pheno; to my knowledge there are only a handful of cookie cuts and a slew of cookie hybrid cuts. I’ve grown/smoked/still have some so I’m not speaking about it after having popped a pack of (GSC x ?).
The OGKB and Forum cut both have very low yields, stability issues, and a high that doesn’t
quite compensate for the first two issues.
If you’ve grown cookie things and liked it, more power to you. But I’m also speaking bout the GSC itself, not just seed hybrids with it. The only hybrid I personally really enjoyed from seed was Chem D Cookies (
Connoisseur Genetics). But it took Chem D exerting influence on the plant for me to find it that enjoyable, so I wouldn’t really then credit everything to cookies and ignore Chem D.
seems to me that if one wants the good cookies You gots ta do a rrrreal hearty pheno hunt and put a lot of love (time,effort) into that.
Finding the right pheno is a criticism that could be leveled to literally every plant/cross. I’m sure if I pop 1000 seeds of anything, I’ll find something worth keeping. The question is, with the insane plethora of choices that exist, why would I spend so much time and money sifting through seeds to try to find a good representation plant, of which I’ve already had
the cut and wasn’t moved by it? The forum cut can make buds more dense and frostier, but if all that frost turns out to just be window dressing on an otherwise “good” plant, what exactly is the GSC bringing to the table? Not to mention this assumes her mutated, finicky, and unstable growth traits don’t also express.
But anyways the point I’m vaguely circling here is that we hate the cookies cause we jealous hoes.
I personally wasn’t ready for that type a work but Damn I want that shit!! (without doing the work of course)
I don’t hate the Cookie plant. To the extent I have strong feelings towards the plant is because it is the exemplar of how hype can overcome genetics. I cannot remember a single cut that was as hyped to the moon and back and for as long as the Girl Scout Cookies has been.
When it hit, that plant literally took over half of the seed bank menus in less than a year, based on what? A few rappers, a handful of people who read about it on ICMag, and an even smaller group of people who actually grew it out and tried it? It is the plant whose reputation preceded itself on a monumental scale. I’m sure the hype surrounding it served those who started it, but I think it painted the plant into a corner. Who could possibly deliver on all that hype; the high had to be a 3.5g shroom trip to even begin to not be considered a let down. To me, Girl Scout Cookies is just OG Kush’s retarded cousin. I’d take just about any OG over a cookie.
I’ve had/have cookie cuts, the real things, not hybrids or S1, (and many hybrids from seed) and wasn’t blown away with the smoke. The OGKB has a nice quality to the high, but it’s not the strongest or most multi-dimensional experience (I find cookie highs to be generally muddled without many ups/downs). In particular, the OGKB has a higher than average level of CBG that can have medical uses, so in that respect it should be considered.
I think if GSC were just released like most other strains, the barrier for acceptance by many wouldn’t be as high considering everything you’re expecting to get from her. Take for instance this thought experiment:
Imagine I hit the thread with some new line I’ll call Cardboard OG and I say:
Oh shit guys, I have this really killer plant called Cardboard OG. Throw away all your other seeds; this shit is the most tremendous cannabis available. It’s the frostiest shit you’ll ever see, but you have to pop 1000 seeds to find one that is relatively close to this one I’m showing you pictures of. Oh, and by the way, while you’re doing this 1000 seed pheno hunt, you’ll be dealing with shitty yields (sorry bout trying to recoup those electric costs), many viable herms (sorry about seeding your rabbit turd buds), and about 15% of these 1000 plants will be so mutated that it probably won’t grow beyond the stretch once flipped. And if, I reiterate IF, you’re lucky enough to find a pheno close to this one, you’ll find the high to be roughly on par with other highs you can find in a 10 pack of good seeds with better yields and less stress.
Now would you think to yourself: “
Holy shit! I gots to get me some of these! And all for the low, low price of $300 for 7 seeds! Whoa! And there are no grow reports with it, and anyone who questions it MUST be a hater, right?!”
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Would you think: “
Hmmm, it would seem ole Schwaggy needs to put some more work into that Cardboard OG.”
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Change Cardboard OG to GSC; Strip away the mystique and this is the story I see.
I understand how this post can be seen as a rant
AT you; please know that it’s not. These are thoughts about a plant I feel took over a scene in a weird direction based not on the merits of the genetics, but on the marketing prowess of a few. If you love cookie plants and all her variants, Fu-cking Awesome! That’s great you found a plant that really clicks with you and find worthy for breeding projects and smoking forever; we all could be so lucky to find that. But if one finds a need to rush to a plant’s defense by questioning other growers’ resolve whenever they don’t agree with an assessment through replies that could apply to literally every strain ever (just grow tons more seeds to find one you like), it would seem like a case of confirmation bias and not general merits of the plant.
