Schwaggy P's Random Stuff

For your consideration....

This will not be cannabis specific, but is wholly applicable to its cultivation. Usually I hesitate to share this information because of the immediate rejection of the premise. I ask that you merely consider the information/data presented.

This book is one of a few that has greatly affected my personal world-view in a way that cannot be undone. It is very much a scenario of, "once you learn it, you can't unknow it."
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Seeing as it is a New York Times bestseller, it can hardly be considered a total secret, but it was by happenstance that I initially came across this book. Having experience teaching sciences, I feel there is a deep disservice to not include the information found in this book as part of the general curriculum.

There is an accompanying film to this book that demonstrates some of the experiments conducted which suggest that plants not only "think", empathize with humans, remember information, and have the capacity to learn, but that it suggests a mode of energy transfer still mysterious to the hard sciences. I have edited the film to show specific experiments below.

Cleve Backster, a foremost expert on polygraph tech and administration, decided to connect a plant for testing. To his shock, the plant not only gave measurable response to stimulus, but would also respond to the mere thought of harm.

Can plants "read" our emotive responses to varying stimulus? This experiment suggests it may be the case.

Imagine a piece of equipment that would allow you to hear a plant "speak". Now take it further and imagine a plant displaying an apparent phonetic "sounding out" as it learns the alphabet.

Testing the plants' "ability", these researchers constructed an experiment where 5 separate individuals would enter a room of 2 plants. One of the individuals had the instruction to destroy one of the plants. This created a clear response from the other plant suggesting an awareness to the harm. The 5 individuals later reentered the room one-by-one with the first 4 eliciting no response from the surviving plant. When the 5th "plant killer" individual reentered the room, the surviving plant began to respond dramatically as if terrified they were next. This response could be interpreted as the plant "remembering".

Imagine being able to tap into these plant signals to automate an entire grow powered only by the plants' expressed needs.

Again, just for your consideration. ;)
 
Being the newb i am...I have read it a few times and google aint helping...WTF is a cube.
Cube or Cubing is a triple backcross.

Back-crossing is a process whereby the target plant is pollinated by successive progeny in order to reinforce the genetic contribution of the target female to resultant progeny.

To make this concept more visual:
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As a male is chosen from each new back-crossed generation and used to pollinate (or cross back to) the target female, the phenotype of the target female is further reinforced in subsequent progeny. Usually, to the extent a strain is backcrossed, the process stops around BX#3 (cubing) as the resultant plants would have about 94% contribution from the target female. This is considered a good stopping point since the target female’s phenotype will theoretically be “locked down” in the progeny.

Why are the two hells angels cuts different?

I would have bought them to see but they will be too tall for my space..100% chance. But I am dying to know the difference.
I'm only aware of one HAOG cut.
 

gwheels

Hobby Farmer
Thanks man...I think i missed the black triangle part and now i get the difference. But i understand the male contribution better too. It is all so amazing and interesting.
This is how you impart a slight degree of the characteristics of the male if that is the desired outcome.
And the more you do it the less the male impacts the offspring...i think.
 
Thanks man...I think i missed the black triangle part and now i get the difference. But i understand the male contribution better too. It is all so amazing and interesting.
This is how you impart a slight degree of the characteristics of the male if that is the desired outcome.
And the more you do it the less the male impacts the offspring...i think.
That's the idea. Backcrossing is a great way to try and make a slight improvement to a plant that you really like. For instance, you could just want to give your favorite plant better structure. So you would find a male that expresses the structure you'd like to see and make your selections based on your target plant. Ideally, you would end with a new plant that is like your original female with better structure.

You could also do two different backcrosses using the same female. So it would be (Female x MaleA)BX3 and (Female x MaleB)BX3 and then breed a female and male from each of the two BX3s to produce a solid representation of the target female, while keeping hybrid vigor in the result.
 
How is there not more understanding or recognition of these things when it comes to the study of plants and their "cognative" reactions and expressions? Crazy stuff though.
These things tend to rub up against the comfort zone of science. When results cannot be explained using modern paradigms and carry the types of implications of the plant research above, it's easier to just ignore, ridicule, or otherwise cast off the line of thinking. You'd be surprised how closed minded many practicing "scientists" can be. Here is a clip from Mythbusters replicating Backster's experiment; take note of how it's ridiculed and laughed off at the beginning:
 

thenotsoesoteric

Shinobi of seeds
For your consideration....

This will not be cannabis specific, but is wholly applicable to its cultivation. Usually I hesitate to share this information because of the immediate rejection of the premise. I ask that you merely consider the information/data presented.

This book is one of a few that has greatly affected my personal world-view in a way that cannot be undone. It is very much a scenario of, "once you learn it, you can't unknow it."
Seeing as it is a New York Times bestseller, it can hardly be considered a total secret, but it was by happenstance that I initially came across this book. Having experience teaching sciences, I feel there is a deep disservice to not include the information found in this book as part of the general curriculum.

There is an accompanying film to this book that demonstrates some of the experiments conducted which suggest that plants not only "think", empathize with humans, remember information, and have the capacity to learn, but that it suggests a mode of energy transfer still mysterious to the hard sciences. I have edited the film to show specific experiments below.

Cleve Backster, a foremost expert on polygraph tech and administration, decided to connect a plant for testing. To his shock, the plant not only gave measurable response to stimulus, but would also respond to the mere thought of harm.

Can plants "read" our emotive responses to varying stimulus? This experiment suggests it may be the case.

Imagine a piece of equipment that would allow you to hear a plant "speak". Now take it further and imagine a plant displaying an apparent phonetic "sounding out" as it learns the alphabet.

Testing the plants' "ability", these researchers constructed an experiment where 5 separate individuals would enter a room of 2 plants. One of the individuals had the instruction to destroy one of the plants. This created a clear response from the other plant suggesting an awareness to the harm. The 5 individuals later reentered the room one-by-one with the first 4 eliciting no response from the surviving plant. When the 5th "plant killer" individual reentered the room, the surviving plant began to respond dramatically as if terrified they were next. This response could be interpreted as the plant "remembering".

Imagine being able to tap into these plant signals to automate an entire grow powered only by the plants' expressed needs.

Again, just for your consideration. ;)
A little off but relateable, in my logic course in college we had to defend or oppose the eating of meat vs plants from a mural stand point. I argued that one life can not be more valuable than another just because we cant perceive the true reality of our world.

I argued that plants exhibit an awareness of things around and just because they lack a nervous system and brain doesnt mean they are not sentient beyond our understanding.

My arguement was better explained and written for the assignment, sorry on my phone at break time at work so just a short explanation, but my professor said "itd be hard to prove plants are capable of sentient behavor. This was 2012, I was 32 at the time, literally a year or so later a few studies came out comfirming the possibility.

And from the videos you posted I see we've come a ways. Cheers man and great info.
 

spyralout

🌱🌿🌲🔥💨
Very interesting stuff indeed i will definitely look into this. A little Floyd during lights out has gotta do something.
On a somewhat related note Maynard James Keenan, lead singer of TOOL, holds brand practices in his Caduceus wine cellars because he believes the vibrations add to the wine in a positive way.

...and TOOL's new album dropped today. Finally after 13 freaking years.
 

PrayerMantis

Active Member
For your consideration....

This will not be cannabis specific, but is wholly applicable to its cultivation. Usually I hesitate to share this information because of the immediate rejection of the premise. I ask that you merely consider the information/data presented.

This book is one of a few that has greatly affected my personal world-view in a way that cannot be undone. It is very much a scenario of, "once you learn it, you can't unknow it."
Seeing as it is a New York Times bestseller, it can hardly be considered a total secret, but it was by happenstance that I initially came across this book. Having experience teaching sciences, I feel there is a deep disservice to not include the information found in this book as part of the general curriculum.

There is an accompanying film to this book that demonstrates some of the experiments conducted which suggest that plants not only "think", empathize with humans, remember information, and have the capacity to learn, but that it suggests a mode of energy transfer still mysterious to the hard sciences. I have edited the film to show specific experiments below.

Cleve Backster, a foremost expert on polygraph tech and administration, decided to connect a plant for testing. To his shock, the plant not only gave measurable response to stimulus, but would also respond to the mere thought of harm.

Can plants "read" our emotive responses to varying stimulus? This experiment suggests it may be the case.

Imagine a piece of equipment that would allow you to hear a plant "speak". Now take it further and imagine a plant displaying an apparent phonetic "sounding out" as it learns the alphabet.

Testing the plants' "ability", these researchers constructed an experiment where 5 separate individuals would enter a room of 2 plants. One of the individuals had the instruction to destroy one of the plants. This created a clear response from the other plant suggesting an awareness to the harm. The 5 individuals later reentered the room one-by-one with the first 4 eliciting no response from the surviving plant. When the 5th "plant killer" individual reentered the room, the surviving plant began to respond dramatically as if terrified they were next. This response could be interpreted as the plant "remembering".

Imagine being able to tap into these plant signals to automate an entire grow powered only by the plants' expressed needs.

Again, just for your consideration. ;)
Damn that’s crazy
 

yougrowyourway

illgrowmyway
For your consideration....

This will not be cannabis specific, but is wholly applicable to its cultivation. Usually I hesitate to share this information because of the immediate rejection of the premise. I ask that you merely consider the information/data presented.

This book is one of a few that has greatly affected my personal world-view in a way that cannot be undone. It is very much a scenario of, "once you learn it, you can't unknow it."
Seeing as it is a New York Times bestseller, it can hardly be considered a total secret, but it was by happenstance that I initially came across this book. Having experience teaching sciences, I feel there is a deep disservice to not include the information found in this book as part of the general curriculum.

There is an accompanying film to this book that demonstrates some of the experiments conducted which suggest that plants not only "think", empathize with humans, remember information, and have the capacity to learn, but that it suggests a mode of energy transfer still mysterious to the hard sciences. I have edited the film to show specific experiments below.

Cleve Backster, a foremost expert on polygraph tech and administration, decided to connect a plant for testing. To his shock, the plant not only gave measurable response to stimulus, but would also respond to the mere thought of harm.

Can plants "read" our emotive responses to varying stimulus? This experiment suggests it may be the case.

Imagine a piece of equipment that would allow you to hear a plant "speak". Now take it further and imagine a plant displaying an apparent phonetic "sounding out" as it learns the alphabet.

Testing the plants' "ability", these researchers constructed an experiment where 5 separate individuals would enter a room of 2 plants. One of the individuals had the instruction to destroy one of the plants. This created a clear response from the other plant suggesting an awareness to the harm. The 5 individuals later reentered the room one-by-one with the first 4 eliciting no response from the surviving plant. When the 5th "plant killer" individual reentered the room, the surviving plant began to respond dramatically as if terrified they were next. This response could be interpreted as the plant "remembering".

Imagine being able to tap into these plant signals to automate an entire grow powered only by the plants' expressed needs.

Again, just for your consideration. ;)
This is why I fuck with you heavy Schwag. I'm definitely going to read this. I've always believed plants have feelings and respond to our energy. Music is always a part of my setup because I feel the vibrations from the bass help the plant strengthen on a cellular level thus creating stronger limbs. Read something ages ago along those lines lol.
 
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