The James Gang

[H.A.F.]

Well after the landraces were brought into the US and bred/crossed mostly outdoors (probably over 95% back in the day), they picked up and/or altered some traits, traits that were brought out by the plants acquiring nutrients from our native soils. My belief is that one in particular (sulphur) played a huge role in the skunk smell of what became ‘skunk’. After decades of the plants being grown indoors those traits diminished, and A LOT of growers completely quit trying to grow skunk indoors because of the risk involved, furthering the demise. I believe it’s still around in seed form, but these seeds are gonna be owned by some old timers that actually unaware of what they have, and they could care less what ‘we’ want or are looking for. But this is just my thoughts. It’s still here, someday soon somebody will find a jar/can/sack full of skunk beans.

Makes a lot of sense.

First, I think it's an "American" strain or it would have been called ferret, or muskrat, or some other stinky animal found in other countries more predominantly than skunks.

The mountains in VA and West VA have super stinky well water - right up into the Ohio valley. And that area produced a lot of skunk.

Would have been the easies strain for the Gubmint Nazi's to find and eradicate during their war on pot.

And I stand by my theory that it is merely a pheno - not a strain. And it's a recessive pheno that is hard to nail down and reproduce.

 

[H.A.F.]

Broke down and got a weed fridge. I got a wine cooler thinking it will probably be more accurate with the temp, don't want it as cold as the food fridge, Mainly to keep me beans good, then whatever weed fits. And no damn frosty dorm-freezer in it

 

[Nobighurry]

But finding "the skunk" and having it breed true are two different questions. It's a pheno.

You took the words right out of my mouth H.A.F. Had some beautiful skunky females kick out dull & low scent kids....I have some Acapulco G seeds a buddy gave me, I grew out a couple, both had a coffee mate creamer scent, cream scent seems to be more common than I expected, talking with a few guys...

 

[Zaphod420]

Broke down and got a weed fridge. I got a wine cooler thinking it will probably be more accurate with the temp, don't want it as cold as the food fridge, Mainly to keep me beans good, then whatever weed fits. And no damn frosty dorm-freezer in it
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Man that looks sharp! The person who could put a humidity readout with up and down arrows just to the space to the left of temp and make it energy star rated and sell it for under 300$ would make a shit ton of money. You could cure or store your medicine.

 

[Old ST1R]

Broke down and got a weed fridge. I got a wine cooler thinking it will probably be more accurate with the temp, don't want it as cold as the food fridge, Mainly to keep me beans good, then whatever weed fits. And no damn frosty dorm-freezer in it
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I’ve been thinking about a fridge for my beans so the wife can have her crisper drawer back.

Fucking packaging of the beans is IMMENSE compared to the contents. It doesn’t take much of a collection to take up a lot of room.

 

[H.A.F.]

Man that looks sharp! The person who could put a humidity readout with up and down arrows just to the space to the left of temp and make it energy star rated and sell it for under 300$ would make a shit ton of money. You could cure or store your medicine.

It was $250, and I was planning to get a damp-rid or something to stick in there, but all my jars have Boveda 62%'s and the beans have dessicants, All individually sealed.

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[H.A.F.]

Only drawback is the wine bottle racks don't fit quart jars. Better to get a Humidor style fridge (same company) with flat shelves. I have some leftover plexiglass so I made flat shelf to slid in, probably make more.

 

[Zaphod420]

It was $250, and I was planning to get a damp-rid or something to stick in there, but all my jars have Boveda 62%'s and the beans have dessicants, All individually sealed.

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NICE... And this might be exactly what @LoudCountryBAMF was looking for dealing with curing his bud when it's hot as hell in the summer time.

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Thanks for the info nuggets H.A.F.

 

[H.A.F.]

I’ve been thinking about a fridge for my beans so the wife can have her crisper drawer back.

Fucking packaging of the beans is IMMENSE compared to the contents. It doesn’t take much of a collection to take up a lot of room.

I got some of these. But the case itself isn't airtight so I have the beans in those cannisters with a 2g silica pack, then in little pellican cases. I have very few sealed packs of beans.

 

[Old ST1R]

I got some of these. But the case itself isn't airtight so I have the beans in those cannisters with a 2g silica pack, then in little pellican cases. I have very few sealed packs of beans.
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Yeah, you could probably reduce the volume of a bean collection by 90%, but then they’re not in sealed packs, which is OK if you never plan to sell or trade them.

I’m not saying you can’t sell or trade open packs, but sealed packs hold their value way better than open packs.

 

[H.A.F.]

Yeah, you could probably reduce the volume of a bean collection by 90%, but then they’re not in sealed packs, which is OK if you never plan to sell or trade them.

I’m not saying you can’t sell or trade open packs, but sealed packs hold their value way better than open packs.

Most of my stuff has already had a bean or beans dropped. Many were males on a one-bean drop and I haven't gotten back around to them yet.
I don't buy much, but what I buy I'm growing. At least once.

 

[H.A.F.]

Now that I have a dedicated space I'll be on the hunt for more space efficient storage but then I also have room to keep unopened packs.

 

[H.A.F.]

Storing weed in there is a luxury. If I get that many beans the bud goes back in "a cool dark place"

 

[Fiddler's Green]

I'm putting a nug in the fridge. I want to see if there is any difference in flavor/experience fresh from the icebox.

Plus, I wanna feel fancy too lol

 

[H.A.F.]

I'm putting a nug in the fridge. I want to see if there is any difference in flavor/experience fresh from the icebox.

Plus, I wanna feel fancy too lol

I have it set at 55F. I think that's a nice medium between cold enough for the beans but not too cold. ~15 degrees below house temp.

From the bro-science I've read you should let it get to room temp before grinding it anyway.

 

[H.A.F.]

The Headbanger Zee came down. The new white pistils were camoflage and she was done. Didn't have to look hard to find ambers, and she looked like tossing nanners was her next option to go with all those new pistils. 11 weeks in 12/12, 300g. The smell is mild, and a little of several things. It has a hint of licorice, but it's mainly weed smell, with a "hint of" other stuff. No larf.

 

[H.A.F.]

The Homecoming Queen have until the10th to hit 8 weeks.

 

[H.A.F.]

Getting ready for my next drop. The 10th is a new moon so I'm going with the karma that has worked in the past. I am trying something new that I will have no way of knowing whether or not it helped, but theoretically it is a good thing.

Supposedly, when beans germinate there are enzymes released that are/were beneficial to that germination. I have a handfull of hermbeans/bagseeds in a 30:1 h2o:h2o2. Letting them germinate for three days then bubbling the water for a bit before adding the real beans.

The re-veg seems to be going well - already looking less frosty. One point for not lollipopping plants unnecessarily. Never know when you might need those old leaves

And the male I stuck back in as soon as it showed is cool. If I was to use this for pollenating there's plenty there to flip already, since it's mature.
I am watching it's size compared to the Mimms in flower to time my amateur chuck-run. I want to flower out my entire next grow before messing with pollen. The Mimms represent that, and the male that I'll hold back for breeding. The main thing I want to see is whether or not keeping the male is a good idea, or if I should just keep clones of it instead so it isn't an oak tree by the time I get clones from that run ready to catch pollen.

The other thing I have been watching is the nuts I left on to see what they do. So far it has been a week back in veg and they have not changed a bit. and show no sign of actually turning into flowers.

 

[H.A.F.]

More grow-notes. My soil is getting "live"-er. any of you salt-feeders ever see mushrooms growing from your pots?


My concerns about top-dressing were unfounded. The clover (mini-clover) makes it so watering without scratching the surface works. Like a mini "no-till". I have the red clover that is full-size, but they all start small - and in only 3-4 months shouldn't become a nuissance. Next grow I am trying both, and I think every pot will have a cover crop. And I need to be more generous with the seeds too.

 

[H.A.F.]

Still subject to change but this is tentatively the next drop. The top two I want to make sure I get M & F. The others just a female for clones to catch pollen. I have more strains I want to try, but looking at the chucking goal I am gearing it towards having thes 7 strains in the mix and leaving less up to chance.

The new thing is these are $$ beans - for me. The Royal Kush is what I want for "the" male, with the PTK as a back-up. The RK is an F10 and should be stable as they get, but is known for having a wild variety of terps. The PTK which has a very short family tree is pick two for the dad, but only if I get 3 RK females.

The PTK and the Oilspill are seeds from @J.James. The Oilspill is from Mandelbrot that he took to F4 (or 5?), the same heirloom beans as the Royal Kush. Just under $200/dozen.

PTK is an IBL from Humbolt CSI was originally $120, but that was for a 21 pack. He pollenated those with no chance at selection. Only one male one female popped out of 5 beans so I believe those are considered F2.

The rest are all in the $10-15/bean price range. Basically I have breeding stock, which prompted at least this one rough attempt at breeding.

If it's not too painful I may do it again as I get towards the end of each of these fire packs of beans. But if I just keep buying beans - and getting testers - and I never have time to run my beans - then I ain't gonna bother

Never in the interest of "breeding" - just having some S1's to hunt through later - and crosses if they turn out since I'm doing it anyway.