Vertical Goodness and Other Batshit Craziness
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ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
Nah, they still have that 3x3" coco plug. They're definitely not drying out. I think I buggered the pH at first. It's sorted now.
improved quick!
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
I kept thinking they're coming around and they just never quite do.
My pH meter could be messed up; I calibrated it and the nutrient solution is 5.8 and EC is 1.7. It's a flood table so temps don't matter but 63F is fine.
I guess maybe the nutrient solution isn't right? It's been sitting awhile? I'm still trying to figure it out. It's a bit discouraging.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
The ones I can see are nice and white. Not a lot of roots sticking out tho.
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
Looks like an N deficiency, from the bottom leaves yellowing and dropping off?
It's been going on a minute so maybe I should just dump this batch of nutrient solution and start over.
I'm using pH test strips to back up the meter and they're not showing a big discrepancy. I think the nutrient solution might be the issue.
Streetpro09
Tester
I'm thinking it's your coco plugs are too big/wrong medium. Maybe the plug is staying too wet at the base of the stalk? How high up are you flooding them in the new pots of hydroton? Completely covering the plug or not touching it at all?
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
Great questions! The cups were roughly 2" square, maybe 2.5" and they're filled with Tupur Royal Gold soilless mix, it's mostly coco coir with biochar. It's definitely made for hydroponics. I'm flooding once a day, just after a 5 hour dark period (peak rates). The nutrient solution definitely reaches the coco.
Streetpro09
Tester
To me they look water logged.
I'd wonder how much truth there is to "there's a difference between hydro roots and dirt roots."
Then I'd wonder if yours grew "dirt roots" to start despite the medium.
When you transplanted did you change the light at all?
Bobby Legit
What smells like a skunk, Dad?
I don't know man, but the roots shown in your pic from the 17th kind of look like they are turning color, not bright white.
Kind of like a pathogen spread.
Maybe something spread from your equipment to the roots?
Do you clean your setup between gardens?
Kind of like a pathogen spread.
Maybe something spread from your equipment to the roots?
Do you clean your setup between gardens?
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I hope things right for ya. Gotta say...I was surprised that you dropped those into hydro and not soil with those rootballs. I've never had any luck combining approaches like that.
And on my last 2 Under Current runs I cleaned and sanitized and OCD'd that fucker HARD....every seal/every nook and cranny....only to be hit with back-to-back root rot and watch 2 crops completely fail. Never went back to hydro after that. I'm using the 13 gallon UC containers now in my outdoor soil garden as planters...LOL.
Any improvement?
And on my last 2 Under Current runs I cleaned and sanitized and OCD'd that fucker HARD....every seal/every nook and cranny....only to be hit with back-to-back root rot and watch 2 crops completely fail. Never went back to hydro after that. I'm using the 13 gallon UC containers now in my outdoor soil garden as planters...LOL.
Any improvement?
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
I've never had this trouble before. Noting changed, so I didn't think I'd have issues.
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
The roots dropping from under the netpots are bright white. I know what root rot smells like and these are fine.
It was not in use for most of a year. I didn't go nuts with the cleaning but then I never have.
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ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
Water logged is possible? They do have that look - except that the ones worst affected are under the brightest light and one would expect the opposite. This tells me it's a nutrient issue.
I've never had this much trouble going from coco to hydro, but maybe there's a first time for everything?
Yes, I did switch lights; color temp stayed about the same at 4000 Kelvin but the output grew from 180W from 2 COB LED right next to each other to a larger square pattern 4 chip 240W COB LED. Both have lenses to aim the light down. I don't think the light is excessive or there would be tip burn.
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
I do appreciate everyone's attention and questions; it's definitely giving me a new perspective.
I used mixed nutrients that were pretty old right as I transplanted them and that's when the trouble started. I don't WANT to dump 50 gallons of nutrient solution but y'all have helped me rule out other causes.
I'll pump the nutes onto my lawn and start fresh. I can't stand the idea of just pouring them down the toilet.
I used mixed nutrients that were pretty old right as I transplanted them and that's when the trouble started. I don't WANT to dump 50 gallons of nutrient solution but y'all have helped me rule out other causes.
I'll pump the nutes onto my lawn and start fresh. I can't stand the idea of just pouring them down the toilet.
ttystikk
Nerd Gone Vertical
I redid the nutes and flushed with the new solution. They have been growing, just slowly. Currently, pH is 5.9, EC 1.9, water is 64F. They are not drying out being flooded once a day. I did raise the light a bit. I removed some yellow leaves near the bottom, maybe 2-4 per plant.
Today's pic;
