HydroRed's DIY Budget Flood and Drain (approx $40 total)

Hydro

PICK YOUR OWN
Thanks Red for this awesome write up and all of the answered questions. I definitely see 1 or 17 of these in my future. Will post when I get one built. I really like the idea of set and forget for days at a time. Looks totally portable too just in case. Simple and solid 💪
Been my go to system for a while now. One of the most simple, effective and trouble free systems Ive ever run in all my years of hydroponics. Wouldnt be right to keep it to myself lol
I'd love to see yours when you get it/them built!
 

gwheels

Hobby Farmer
It is a wonderful system. All I can hear is the water filling it up if it kicks on when i am in the bloom room. But its the sound of slightly moving water. Quieter than an air system compressor. And it can hold 6 or 8 or 12 plants depending on the pot size.
I think it is awesome. And now that I have the PH dialed in better the girls are loving it. I need to get more planters in that tray !
 

spyralout

🌱🌿🌲🔥💨
Been my go to system for a while now. One of the most simple, effective and trouble free systems Ive ever run in all my years of hydroponics. Wouldnt be right to keep it to myself lol
I'd love to see yours when you get it/them built!
move over
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this is the real RedBox

Too bad the original tray isn't readily (affordably) available. Hopefully will be able to find a nice fitting combo.

A RedBox dedicated to running 3Thirteen seeds 🤔
When was that drop again? :whistle:
 

Cob_nUt

"Justa Ganja Lover"
Hydro Red inspired F&D totes fucking rock!
My first run with them or any F&D system ran pretty flawlessly,considering I only did 2 complete res changes the whole grow.
Top offs only after the show sex,or a week or so later.
Shot of the last tote to be taken out and prepped for the next run.
1 CNC(tallest plant)
4 LA Affies.
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Thanks again Red!
 

spyralout

🌱🌿🌲🔥💨
Hydro Red inspired F&D totes fucking rock!
My first run with them or any F&D system ran pretty flawlessly,considering I only did 2 complete res changes the whole grow.
Top offs only after the show sex,or a week or so later.
Shot of the last tote to be taken out and prepped for the next run.
1 CNC(tallest plant)
4 LA Affies.
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Thanks again Red!
😦 FUUUUUHHHH 😦
First F&D run too, nice mang!
 

spyralout

🌱🌿🌲🔥💨
Thank you.Ya,really easy to run 'em.I had 3 totes in the tent.Kinda want to build a table and put a tray over the whole tent now!
Except the trays I have,I guess aren't F&D trays.They only have 1 hole.
Contemplating pros and cons of tables, seeing if I'm on the right track:
- Tables (depending on height) can save on your back (a huge plus)
- Because of said height, you can run into height issues in a tent which can be dealt with in other ways such as scrog, lst, etc.
 

gwheels

Hobby Farmer
The problem I am having with the flood and drain is the same as always....I think I need smaller pots.

They are getting HUGE in the flood and drain. PH rises almost every day but PH down only takes a few drops to adjust. The 4k QB above this tote is probably helping them lush out but its the constant awesome water feed that is working (up to 5 feeds per day 15 minutes each) TDS 1000 PH 5.8 this morning after adjustment (6.2)

You can barely see the tote with 2 plants in it. The white rhino is going BONKERS. GIANT leaves like a heisenbean. And I am about 90% sure its a canuck seed white rhino
IT takes up more than half the tote. 7 litre pots might be too big :D.

I love this system. When I harvest F&D#2 is going in. And I had a eureka moment. I can put my lids for bubble buckets in a flood and drain in the veg tent...When they are established into the bloom room in the bubble bucket...Right in the tray so no disturbing roots. GENIUS ! I am going to order 2 more tote trays!

White Rhino (was the solo cup #2) in the flood and drain
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Skeleton Cookies and White Rhino in the F&D
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gwheels

Hobby Farmer
Maybe its the room too. Harmony and good temps and rh.
Everything is growing better than when i was in tents.

But it is more intense..yes i had to dad joke it.

I am having the best grow experience since i started 3 years ago.
I still learn new things all the time but the basics work.
Good water
Good light
Good temps
Good nutes
Good genetics
You will win with those

And i thought this was my grow joural. Sorry hydrored i will move it later
 
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Hydro

PICK YOUR OWN
Maybe its the room too. Harmony and good temps and rh.
Everything is growing better than when i was in tents.

But it is more intense..yes i had to dad joke it.

I am having the best grow experience since i started 3 years ago.
I still learn new things all the time but the basics work.
Good water
Good light
Good temps
Good nutes
Good genetics
You will win with those

And i thought this was my grow joural. Sorry hydrored i will move it later
Looking good! You aint gotta move anything my friend. What better spot to show the workings of the DIY F&D?
 

TerpyTyrone

LED Recruiter
The problem I am having with the flood and drain is the same as always....I think I need smaller pots.

They are getting HUGE in the flood and drain. PH rises almost every day but PH down only takes a few drops to adjust. The 4k QB above this tote is probably helping them lush out but its the constant awesome water feed that is working (up to 5 feeds per day 15 minutes each) TDS 1000 PH 5.8 this morning after adjustment (6.2)

You can barely see the tote with 2 plants in it. The white rhino is going BONKERS. GIANT leaves like a heisenbean. And I am about 90% sure its a canuck seed white rhino
IT takes up more than half the tote. 7 litre pots might be too big :D.

I love this system. When I harvest F&D#2 is going in. And I had a eureka moment. I can put my lids for bubble buckets in a flood and drain in the veg tent...When they are established into the bloom room in the bubble bucket...Right in the tray so no disturbing roots. GENIUS ! I am going to order 2 more tote trays!

White Rhino (was the solo cup #2) in the flood and drain
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Skeleton Cookies and White Rhino in the F&D
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Soooooo Fuckin jealous!! I'm doing the research to make this happen next run!!!!
Thanks @HydroRed
 

Skeet Kuhn Dough

5th-level Mage
This is an easy and affordable DIY Flood and Drain build. Anyone who knows me knows I like to do stuff on the cheap and this project is no different. This can be used either with the tray in the tote, or tray on a table and the tote as the reservoir.

PARTS NEEDED:
(1) "ODJOB" brand 7 gal mixing tray ($5.98 @ Lowes)

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(1) "Commander XXL" brand 27 gal tote ($8.99 @ Lowes)
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(1) 1/2" Fill - 3/4" Drain F&D bulkhead set ($8.99 @hydrostore or online)
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(1) 185 gph submersible pump ($12.49 at hydro shop or online)
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(2') 1/2" O.D. plastic tubing ($0.89 per ft at hydrostore or Lowes)
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The way this will work, is that the tray sits inside the top of the res, leaving space under the tray in the res to hold the water. The F&D kits gets installed into the tray any way you choose to do so that it fits your needs and pot count in the tray. The submersible pump sits under the tray in the tote (reservoir) and the 1/2" tubing connects the pump to the fill side of the F&D kit. I have labeled some of the parts by brand name specifically because I know they are an absolute perfect fit when used together. I have built 4 sets of these for myself and many more for others. They have been in use in my rooms for yrs now without any issue or fail so I know they work and am confident it will work just as good for you!

INSTRUCTIONS:

Drill out (2) 1-3/8" holes with a hole saw bit. The location of the holes should be dependent on how many pots you will be using and where you will be placing them. I use up to (6) 1gal pots so I drill mine accordingly but you can run any number of pots that you feel will work for you. Heres a couple examples of placement for your fill and drains with different pot sizes,count, and arrangements. Red represents fill, and green represents drain.
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-Connect the bulkheads onto the tray, sure to use the included rubber washers. No silicone or anything like that should be needed. Just put the screen top on the fill side, and put 1 collar and a screen on the drain side. Be sure you put the right pieces on the right sides or your table wont fill or drain properly. Again, you want just the screen top on the 1/2" fill bulkhead, and the collar AND the screen top on the 3/4" drain bulkhead (as shown).
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-Use the (2') of 1/2" tubing to connect the fill bulkhead on the bottom of the tray to the submersible pump and place the pump in the tote (reservoir).

-Place the tray into the top of the 27 gal tote (reservoir). Be sure there are no kinks in the 1/2" line when you place the tray into the tote. If there is, just cut some of the excess off so the line sets in the res comfortably connected to the submersible pump.
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-No tubing is needed for the drain portion since it will naturally just drain right back into the tote (reservoir) once the desired flood depth is achieved.

-Fill with water. I usually fill with 12 gal as this is enough to flood the tray, and still keep enough in the res so ther pump doesnt run dry or suck air.

-Connect the power cord from the submersible pump to a timer and set it to flood 15 min every 3-4 hrs (or as you feel is needed). This should be a good starting point until you determine the frequency of your floods. Once the timer cuts off, gravity will make the water flow back down to the res through the fill bulkhead and down through the submersible pump.

-Fill the tray with your potted plants in hydroton, adjust your nutrient strength & pH, and get to flooding -YOU'RE DONE!

TIPS:

Make sure the holes in the pots you use arent bigger than the hydroton (or whatever medium you use) or it will spill out during floods and make a mess of your clean flood tray and you'll be constantly picking out medium.

Be sure your tray sits flush down inside of the tote. You dont want any light in your reservoir. This is why I was "brand specific" on the tray and tote.

If you notice your flood level isnt where it once was, or if you notice bubbles coming from the fill while flooding -its time to add to the res.

You can use a sight tube to keep track of where your water level is or you can mark a line on the reservoir as a reference of where the water level should be.

You can use furniture dollies under the tote to make moving them around an easy task.

This same setup can be used on a table simply by getting the appropriate length of 1/2" and 3/4" tubing to run from the tray to pump in the res by drilling holes in the lid for the tubing to run through like shown:
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Very concise and very well-structured instructional. I've always wanted to do a DIY F/D grow, I've really only ever done DWC as far as hydro goes. +Rep (y)

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TerpyTyrone

LED Recruiter
Will I have to,adjust my ph much after initially making the reservoir?

How,often do you drain and redo the rez?

Have You @HydroRed ever used gh flora 3 part series? Silica? Cal mag?

How far should I expect the ph to drift weekly if the plants are in a healthy environment?

This May sound stupid but without taking off the lid have u ever had like a spicket on the side so u could,test a cup at a time?

Do you let your ph drift at all say 5.8 - 6.5?

How do I get the rooted plant in coco transplanted into the hydroton?
 

Boybelue

Super Active Member
Will I have to,adjust my ph much after initially making the reservoir?

How,often do you drain and redo the rez?

Have You @HydroRed ever used gh flora 3 part series? Silica? Cal mag?

How far should I expect the ph to drift weekly if the plants are in a healthy environment?

This May sound stupid but without taking off the lid have u ever had like a spicket on the side so u could,test a cup at a time?

Do you let your ph drift at all say 5.8 - 6.5?

How do I get the rooted plant in coco transplanted into the hydroton?
You can run coco in fabric pots in a ebb n flo type system. It just calls for a few different parameters.
 
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