Schwaggy P's Random Stuff

[Heathenraider]

Thank you. I'm currently working on a post about reversing females with STS (already have the STS mixing part done and she's been sprayed, just waiting for the reversal to get some pics and pollen collection), but I'll be working on this structure post alongside.

Schwaggy You should open a service writing love letters You would get fucking rich! Great write ups as usual . Masterpiece per page.

 

[Schwaggy P]

Schwaggy You should open a service writing love letters You would get fucking rich! Great write ups as usual . Masterpiece per page.

Thank you. Now there's an idea, hmmm

 

[Heathenraider]

Thank you. Now there's an idea, hmmm

Wedding vows too, think how many stiffs You could turn into DeCaprio with 1 page of eloquence.

 

[Heathenraider]

We as a community are very lucky to have You in the community , not often do You meet a person so knowledgeable and gracious . Skal

 

[Schwaggy P]

Ooh I'm in love with the skunky brewster. Lol. I so want to have them in my garden to love and admire. Lmfao. I'm a plant goof. Patience, it will be soon. Lol.
Wonderful posts, all of them. I strive to have all of my write ups and documentaries as well done and informative. So perfectly done my friend.

Thank you, you've got a couple Skunky B possibilities . Hopefully you'll find a double frosted Chem.

 

[Schwaggy P]

We as a community are very lucky to have You in the community , not often do You meet a person so knowledgeable and gracious . Skal

Thank you brother, very much appreciated.

 

[Schwaggy P]

The Cherry Sunshine is in full pollen drop mode, and the OGKB is showing signs of pollination.

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[Schwaggy P]

The Black Lights is starting to develop.

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Ladies getting ready for the Black Lights dust.

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[Schwaggy P]

I think it's safe to say this Cherry Sunshine is pollinated.

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[Hydro]

I think it's safe to say this Cherry Sunshine is pollinated.

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f2's?

 

[Schwaggy P]

f2's?

Yes

 

[Heathenraider]

I'll tell You what that Black Lights X HA OG should be like getting kicked in the head by a horse . Take all my because before my bones turn to dust I want to run that Monster.

 

[Schwaggy P]

I'll tell You what that Black Lights X HA OG should be like getting kicked in the head by a horse . Take all my because before my bones turn to dust I want to run that Monster.

That's the effect I'm aiming for.

 

[Hydro]

Skunky Brewster looking killer!

 

[Heathenraider]

Hey Scwaggy take a gander at this girl , 1 week in flower , she needs pollen

 

[Schwaggy P]

Hey Scwaggy take a gander at this girl , 1 week in flower , she needs pollen

Lookin' good, what is she?

 

[Schwaggy P]

Skunky Brewster looking killer!

Pretty much every pheno had that above average frost. The lineage on the pack read (RKS 5 x Iraqi), and when Strayfox posted on IG about the Skunky Brewster, mentioned the lineage as (Sterling Green x Iraqi). Bodhiguide recently posted a Hippy Slayer pic with (Dirty Hippy x Sterling Green) and is just as coated as the Skunky B's. Seems like the secret ingredient is that Sterling Green RKS line.

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I haven't smoked any of the Skunky Brewsters yet (curing), still need to narrow down which will be kept. I saved 2 males (one of each structural phenotype), so I might narrow the female choice down to 2-3 and make a refined open pollination batch of seeds. I might be able to find a solid Sterling Green leaner in the F2.

 

[Heathenraider]

Lookin' good, what is she?

its Blue Sherbet X Banana OG , trying to breed Her to Gens SBB but I was an idiot and only ran 3 SBB and 1st one is a girl and 2nd 2 are a week from flip , I screwed the pooch lol

 

[Schwaggy P]

@Schwaggy P was wondering if you could do a write up on plant structure?

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When you hear “structure”, usually it is a catchall term causally used to refer to a plant’s “look” or the integrity of branches. I like to think of structure as the amalgam of individual observable constituent components of the plant.

Structure usually refers to pre-flower characteristics, but structure is something to continue considering through the entire cycle: stretch, branch strength under pressure, specific bud characteristics (this write-up will focus on pre-flower structural considerations).

The amount of consideration given to plant structure is wholly dependent on the goals of the grower. If you are a grower looking for a potent plant that works well in your SCROG setup, you probably aren’t going to spend too much time noting the serration pattern of the leaves. If you are a breeder trying to benchmark the heritability of a set of traits and need to establish whether unrelated phenotypic expressions are linked as they pass along to subsequent generations, you’ll be taking note of the serrations along with vein striations, leaf texture, etc. If you have a cut/cross and want to verify it against parent plants, you’ll want as much observable info possible to make a match.

The most important and most difficult part of any hunt/assessment of plants is to know what you are looking for, or more specifically, what you want to find in any set of characteristics. Ask yourself,

• What motivated me to grow these seeds?
• What characteristic(s) was I envisioning when considering popping these seeds?
• What set of traits would I consider keeper quality?
• Am I trying to find which parent this leans to?
• What type of plant would work best in my setup?
• What traits do I want to see in the progeny of this plant?

If you can answer these questions and prioritize the individual traits, you have a better understanding for what you are looking. Whether you are just assessing new plants from seed, selecting breeding stock, or figuring which parent a cross leans to, having these answers can better guide the effort.

You could only really care about the final smoke effect, and in that case, structure is mostly irrelevant.

One grower’s cull is another grower’s keeper

Structural Components​

INTERNODES

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Internodes are the space between the nodes (junctions of secondary terminal branching, leaf petioles, and main stem)(pic 1). If we assume the different phenos of the same strain will all finish with the same relative height, the plants with longer internodes will have less overall budsites when compared to shorter internoded plants (pic 2,3). Generally, longer internodes foreshadow a more pronounced stretch when flipped to flower (pic 4). The types of plants that express very short internodes tend to be of a sturdier stalk and can be more difficult to manipulate for training (pic 5).

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STEM STRENGTH

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The integrity of your plant framework is instrumental in the ability to support itself later in flower. Plants with thinner stems tend to need more support throughout maturity(pic 6), while thicker more robust stems can comfortably sustain massive bud growth independently (pic 7).

If you were looking for a plant to max out in a SCROG, you would skew toward the thinner, floppy stemmed plants to more easily weave through your screen. If you prefer to keep your plant support low maintenance, stronger stems will be more desirable.

BRANCHING

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Your plant’s tendency to push out secondary tops that adds to the footprint, yield, and need for support is the branching quality. Some plants will grow as one main stalk with little to no side branching (pic 8). This would be advantageous in a SOG setup as lateral growth is limited. Conversely, a plant more adept at spitting out side growth will respond well to topping techniques for medium sized bushes (pic 9).

In veg, how a plant responds to topping can tell you how reluctant it is to branching. Sometimes, you don’t get an appreciation for a pheno’s ability to branch until the stretch.

PETIOLES

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Petioles are the stems that connect the leaf to the node of the plant. These come in all sizes and can impact your plant footprint and light penetration. Shorter petioles give the plant a narrow silhouette, great for packing in plants to a space; but can reduce the amount of light that can penetrate the upper canopy (pic 10). Longer petioles demand more square footage but allow far more light into the interior of the plant (pic 11).

A goldilocks balance between the two extremes can offer you the best of both worlds while sidestepping the brunt of the downsides.

LEAF BLADES

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• Width
  • Taking note of the leaf blade width can help give you an idea about the phenotype’s leanings to the parents and genetics more generally (pic 12,13).
• Serration
  • Leaf serration can give you an idea about which parent is expressing in the leaves. Some plants develop a double serration and sporadic double serration (pic 14). Some leaves can have deep serrations that give a buzz saw look to the leaves, while others are shallow and less obvious.
• Variegation
  • If your plant expresses variegation, you have a peculiar trait that can give insight about which parent expresses and can be used as a marker in breeding (pic 15).
• Texture
  • The individual blades can have different surface character, being smooth or like gator-skin. Thicker leather-like leaves that have rougher surfaces can offer more surface area and a tougher protection against pests (pic 16).
• Number
  • The number of blades per leaf can change as the plant develops. Some can start with 3-blades and develop 5-blade leaves (pic 17). Noting the number of blades can also help in plant ID comparison.
• Size Distribution
  • The relative sizes of the leaf blades can also help ID plant leanings and establish trait heritability. Some blades have a more evenly distributed leaf blade surface area (pic 18), while others can take on a 1:3:1 arrangement (pic 19).

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There are some other traits that are flower specific and more in depth for geeking out/breeding (leaf veins, angles of blades, petiole tasting). This should be a decent intro to structure and help spot the differences in phenotypes.

 

[Streetpro09]

Oh man!!!! I'm excited to read that several times but it'll have to wait at this point of the night! It looks top notch just scrolling by!