Stuck thread, very nice. Thank you for adding these additions.
Schwaggy P's Random Stuff
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Thank you!
I decided to try out Terpinator for a current run and have found that it really improves the intensity of the smell. It is something that I would like to incorporate into my nutrient regimen. Unfortunately, the required dosage and relatively steep price has me hesitant to commit.
The label reads: Soluble Potash (K2O)……4.0%, Derived from Potassium Sulfate
Add 5-10mL/gal in veg
Add 10-30mL/gal in flower
So I have decided to try to replicate this additive by mixing my own Potassium Sulfate solution and testing it on a run of the same cut that has responded well to Terpinator.
I have done some calculations and found that in order to create the same concentration of Soluble Potash derived from Potassium Sulfate, I will need to add 300g of Potassium Sulfate per gallon of water (The math is included below).
‼PLEASE NOTE: I have yet to apply this to plants. I will be testing this mixture and making notes of any issues/successes and suggestions for possible further adjustment. Do not try this at home (yet). Neither Schwaggy P, nor any Schwaggy P subsidiaries are responsible for any grower attempting this recipe or the results thereof.
MATERIALS
Potassium Sulfate
Container for the solution
Scale
Gloves
Flask (optional for smaller mixed solutions)
PROCEDURE
Make sure to weigh out amounts that your scale can handle. If your scale cannot handle 300g measurements, mass several “batches” of Potassium Sulfate to equal 300gCarefully transfer the Potassium Sulfate into your container (pic 2).
A funnel may be helpfulPour about half of the distilled water into the container (pic3).
Filling only half way allows room for you to shake the solution and assist the dissolving processShake the container vigorously (pic 4), then fill the container with the remaining half of distilled water. At this point you have a one-gallon terpene-enhancing additive for less than 1/10th the cost of the store bought version.
TESTING
In Series A, the Terp Enhancinator contributed an increase of 251.5ppm(0.5 scale)
In series B, the Terpinator contributed an increase of 379.9ppm
The DIY mix is a colorless and odorless solution, while the Terpinator has a yellowish color with a smell. These additions may explain the slight increased TDS contribution of the Terpinator. The take-away for me is that my DIY mix is not an astronomical overshoot of something like 2,600ppm. The relatively closeness of the ppm suggests the solution is not going to severely alter my reservoir chemistry.
Since the final DIY mix had a slightly lower concentration contribution than the Terpinator (expected since there are more non nutritive additions) and there was friendly interaction with nutrient solution, I feel this will be okay to try on my plants. I will use begin using this mix as directed to best replicate the Terpinator and assess the performance. I will update as things progress.
REFERENCE
Potassium Sulfate - Spec Sheet
Potassium Sulfate MSDS
MATH
Heathenraider
Heathen Basterd
I knew He was some type of Wizard or Shaman
That is not the same stuff. That chemical is an antioxidant and antimicrobial used to stop microorganisms in alcohol brewing. After a quick search, I can't find any info related to its use as a fertilizer.
I will be using it in hydro. I could dose a throw-away plant with it in soil just to see how it reacts.
Feva.
Really Active Member
You sir never stop amazing me. I have a quart of the Terpinator I havent tried yet. That I received from a grow event. Based off your results Im going to give that a try in the near future. I will be anxiously awaitng the results you get from your Terp Enhancenator. Thank you for all the things you are doing for the community, constantly educating. Also I kind of like the name, Schwaginator Taking your plants to the next level, Give'm dat Schwag
Whenever you get to trying the Terpinator, please update about your experience. I enjoy sharing the info. Haha, good name. I'll consider a formal name if it proves to be a solid substitute.
shimz
vapest
More info: commonly referred to as "metabite". Brewers, distillers and winemakers use it to clear out the chlorine taste and odor from municipal water supplies which can give the final brew an off plastic-y taste. We can use it for eliminating chlorine compounds from our feed water.
Breeding Tent #2
Pollen Donor: Cherry Sunshine
Pollen Donor: Cherry Sunshine
The Cherry Sunshine male is about to start dropping pollen.
Main Cola
Chuckers Paradise
It’s a sticky nowGood shit brother Schwag! glad to see you over here!
@Genuity @Heisenbeans @Main Cola this shit should be a sticky or something. Sooo much great info in the first handful of pages!
Keep it up Schwaggy!
Smoke Report
Gelato #45
(Sunset Sherbet x Girl Scout Cookies)
Smell: doughy, earthy, slight sour, spent fireworks
Taste: sweet, soil, almond extract (non-sweet cherry), menthol
Effect: hybrid balance without a crash, slight body tingling/buzzing, easing of aches, increased perceptual stimulation, Overall duration ~1.5-2hrs
Growing:
Stretch: roughly tripled initial flowering height
Flowering Time: 65-72 days
Nutes: Moderate feeder
Taste
A long draw inhale over the Gelato #45 flowers presents a sweetened earthy smell with an influence of the sour/fuel-type aromas. It is less gas/diesel and more like spent fireworks. This acrid note is not off-putting, but is stirring the aroma of the doughy soil foundation.
As the smoke high fives your tongue on the exhale, you can taste lightly sweetened earth as the smell hinted. The tongue interprets the acrid spent gunpowder as more of a mentholated “cool” lighting up your taste buds as you blow smoke. Unexpectedly, there was almond extract at the tail end; a non-sweet black cherry taste. The smoke is not a thick expansive toke, but the taste does have staying power keeping your lips smacking after the smoke is gone.
Effect
The Gelato#45 effect begins as an elevated mood, with tingling in the head. This tingling shifts to the chest after 10-15 minutes and conjures hints of a coming raciness/anxiety. This impending anxiety never really develops as a more balanced relaxation grows throughout the body accompanied by some slight visual overstimulation. Lights seem too bright, moving objects too fast, etc.
The balanced high fully develops after about 15-20 minutes. Joint pains and aches seem to melt away without a couch-lock stone. Your brow slowly drops as a wave of ease pours over your face. A calm creativity is allowed to bloom as mental clarity, positive mood, and released tension mingles in a great equalized high.
This experience lasts 1.5-2hours and does not have a crash that leaves you taking unscheduled naps. As you continue to toke on the Gelato#45, the initial threats of raciness/anxiety are sidestepped and the relaxed good mood is reinvigorated.
Overall
Gelato#45 offers a stable modern strain that is not a finicky grow. She will begin to develop purple accents around week 5-6 of flower and finish with a visual appeal of a bowl of Fruity Pebbles. Her kiss of Tanzanite adds violet, rose, and indigo to a plant that can show off through the favorable leaf/calyx ratio.
She has a great smell/flavor combo that includes a less common sour/fuel expression, visual appeal, and easy trim, all without the fussiness some cookie plants/hybrids can demand. Gelato#45’s dense nuggetry is a very satisfying midday/evening smoke that can help ease aches and elevate mood. She will have you coming back for a second bowl of gelato.
Thank you, she's got some nice strength.Green Crack S1 (one Green Crack CBD first row center-right) - Day 43
H.A. OG - Day 47
Chocolate Covered Strawberries F2 + GG4 - Day 27
CCS
GG4
Black Lights (Black Domina x NL#1) and Old School Hashplant (PNW HP x 88G13HP) table has been flipped a few days ago. Here is the lone Old School Hashplant that germinated.
Skunky Brewster dried just before hitting the jars and trim.
H.A. OG - Day 47
Chocolate Covered Strawberries F2 + GG4 - Day 27
Black Lights (Black Domina x NL#1) and Old School Hashplant (PNW HP x 88G13HP) table has been flipped a few days ago. Here is the lone Old School Hashplant that germinated.
Skunky Brewster dried just before hitting the jars and trim.
Hydro
PICK YOUR OWN
You had me til "Menthol" & "Mentholated" haha. But after a stellar smoke report like that, I still wanna smoke. Awesome report as usual my friend!
Thanks,
, It's not so much a minty contribution to the flavor, more so the cool finish of menthol.
Streetpro09
Tester
@Schwaggy P was wondering if you could do a write up on plant structure? I see you talk about it but after looking at your pictures I can't tell any real difference. I'm sure I'm not looking at the details close enough but I don't even know what the details are to begin with.
I'm currently growing a couple different strains and within those stains a couple different phenotypes. I can definitely see the different structures but don't know what's desirable. Please help me understand.
I'm currently growing a couple different strains and within those stains a couple different phenotypes. I can definitely see the different structures but don't know what's desirable. Please help me understand.
I can definitely add a more formal write-up of structure on my list o' write-ups
. I'll throw around a couple considerations when looking at structure: inter-nodal spacing, stem strength, overall height, leaf/calyx ratio, leaf/node ratio, petiole length, leaf characteristics, etc. Each of these considerations have implications you'll deal with as you grow your plants. For instance, really short petioles (leaf stems) can allow you to SOG more efficiently versus a plant with long petioles and wide stature.When deciding what is desirable, you have to weigh a few considerations: what were you looking for when deciding to pop the seeds, your general growing goals, and what best performs in your space to name a few.
For instance, if you popped an OG backcross hoping to find the most OG dominant plant, you'd skew your selections for more lanky, long internoded, tri-leaf dominant plant expressions. If you are commercial cropping, then you don't want to deal with overly floppy gals that require lots of extra work to tie up in full flower rooms, so you'd choose the stronger, less branchy plants. If you're growing in a small cab, then an OG x Landrace sativa structure (tall, lanky, massive stretch), would not be the best structure type to attempt.
Streetpro09
Tester
@Schwaggy P you really have a way of putting things together and making them understandable. I barely knew how to ask what I did and here you are with immediate knowledge! You are the man! Would definitely enjoy some comparison pictures when you get the time for that write up.
Thank you. I'm currently working on a post about reversing females with STS (already have the STS mixing part done and she's been sprayed, just waiting for the reversal to get some pics and pollen collection), but I'll be working on this structure post alongside.