#Heisenbeans Genetics

Ozjet68

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Bridezilla and GG4 first time indoor grow in organic soil . I think I’m seeing a couple things living on the edge. Yellow edging of leaves on new growth and it looks like that gloss look of excess nitrogen. Maybe I’m reading into things and getting picky. Any advice welcome 5F8EB5A9-29C4-4A8E-97DE-FACF87A338B7.jpeg91546FD2-8D0C-4085-B800-B76852C2F1BE.jpeg
 
treefarmercharlie

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JohnFonda said:
It's been a bit but with the modern LEDs I think actually running them a bit harder increases the efficiency. It's a very small number so your pretty right about it being the same amount of heat. The heat is hardly just the light heating things up though. . Heat is a byproduct of inefficiency in electronics. There is no friction or moving parts etc so the heat you feel is the resistance converting into heat. Why vapers use resistance coil to heat the wire rapidly. The more efficient something is the more output it has with less heat generated. Locating your drivers outside the tent helps immensely. Use quality speaker wire to run into the tent. Wago that to solid wire and put the solid into your molex. Placing a fan on them or your exhaust will expand the drivers life too. Full blown mine are cool to the touch.
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Correct, the more efficient lights are more efficient because you are able to get more light from less watts. What I was explaining is that running a 300w light at 300W will produce the overall same amount of heat as running a 450W light at 300W. Placing a fan on them doesn’t cause them to produce less heat, though. You are just dissipating that heat from the driver more quickly, which is making it cool to the touch, but the heat is still being generated.
 
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gwheels

gwheels

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Be forwarned....over the next 2 to 6 months i am going to light this shit up.

That horrible Heisen gave me some fire...lots of fire. And I already had FIRE. Blue Dream and Glue crosses i have only dreamed of.

So first of all..Thanks man !!!!

Its just going to get crazy up in here....Lets grow this shit.
 
sfrigon1

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gwheels said:
Be forwarned....over the next 2 to 6 months i am going to light this shit up.

That horrible Heisen gave me some fire...lots of fire. And I already had FIRE. Blue Dream and Glue crosses i have only dreamed of.

So first of all..Thanks man !!!!

Its just going to get crazy up in here....Lets grow this shit.
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Doooooo iiiiiiiiit! Love seeing your buds bro . Always looking good.
 
JohnFonda

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TreeFarmerCharlie said:
Correct, the more efficient lights are more efficient because you are able to get more light from less watts. What I was explaining is that running a 300w light at 300W will produce the overall same amount of heat as running a 450W light at 300W. Placing a fan on them doesn’t cause them to produce less heat, though. You are just dissipating that heat from the driver more quickly, which is making it cool to the touch, but the heat is still being generated.
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You were also explaining that efficiency doesn't matter. 300 watts makes the same amount of heat as 300 watts regardless of inefficiency. That is not good science. Just clearing things up so everyone understands better. Also the whole light heat thing was way off. The leds have heatsinks on the back of the boards/strips to dissipate heat from the strip because that's where the majority of it is produced. Light itself doesn't carry heat. The photons carry kinetic energy that when hitting other particles in turn takes or give vibrations which will create heat. Not nearly as much as the leds produce as a byproduct of electrical conversion. I'm quite aware if you put a fan on the stove it's not creating less heat it is just moving it... idk to feel insulted that your trying to show me this it's so basic lol.
 
treefarmercharlie

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JohnFonda said:
You were also explaining that efficiency doesn't matter. 300 watts makes the same amount of heat as 300 watts regardless of inefficiency. That is not good science. Just clearing things up so everyone understands better. Also the whole light heat thing was way off. The leds have heatsinks on the back of the boards/strips to dissipate heat from the strip because that's where the majority of it is produced. Light itself doesn't carry heat. The photons carry kinetic energy that when hitting other particles in turn takes or give vibrations which will create heat. Not nearly as much as the leds produce as a byproduct of electrical conversion. I'm quite aware if you put a fan on the stove it's not creating less heat it is just moving it... idk to feel insulted that your trying to show me this it's so basic lol.
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Do you just like to argue for the sake of argument? I never said efficiency doesn't matter, I said that running a higher wattage fixture at a lower wattage doesn't produce less heat than running a fixture at it's rated wattage, but that it can actually add to the longevity of the LEDs. I've been in the electronics industry for almost as long as you've been alive and we need to factor in heat generation for rack cooling. So, if efficiency effects heat generation then please explain to me why we always use the total watts used by the equipment in the rack to spec in proper cooling for the rack and/or equipment room? You are confusing the need to use LESS WATTS when a light is MORE EFFICIENT with a 300W LED producing the same amount of heat as a 300W MH bulb. This is a basic law of physics that even you can't defeat. The MH bulb will radiate more heat from the bulb, but the overall heat produced by that bulb and ballast will be the same as the heat generated from a 300W LED setup and it's driver.
 
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