Kulla380
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Awesome! I just received my 20pcs cutters strips, so my next grow will be the first one with leds. Will be running them soft at ~25w per strip
#Heisenbeans Genetics
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yougrowyourway
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Any particular reason to run them soft?
Kulla380
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Less heat+more efficient. Suits my grow location better
Watts is watts and the same wattage will actually produce the same amount of heat no matter what. While the lights WILL run more efficiently, and will last longer, the heat generated in the tent will always be the same unless you remotely locate your ballast outside of the tent. I used to believe the same as you until someone sent me a link to an explanation of the science behind it. To make it short, the reason for this is the light generated from those watts carries the heat and that light bounces around and the heat from it is eventually completely absorbed by the tissue in the plants and the other materials in the tent. This is why the only way to truly reduce heat is to remotely locate your ballast so the heat being produced from that is not being absorbed by the tent/growing area.
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Rot is easy to spot outdoors. Guaranteed..... if you see a small guard leaf that is brown/krinkly...there is a very good chance that there's bud rot behind it inside that bud.
Pretty sure "Regalia" also works on PM. Outdoor guys should have some of this on hand, IMO. It's a preventative.....so you watch the weather and if the conditions are coming that are right for the shit to hit....you spray. Haven't used it/don't know about indoor use. Kinda stainks a bit...so you might wanna take em outside..hit em...then put em back in the tent. Just a thought. sounds like it's been pretty wicked this year for some of ya. I dunno how the fuck you grow in all that heat/humidity back there in the Tropics. (anywhere East of central Kansas..LOL) I salute you all. My life is pretty easy here compared to that. Just hailstorms and frost/freeze here. not many bugs. No PM. bud rot only shows if it's a rainy end...and you just end it here rather than fuck around cus once it cools off/gets humid to where that shit will form it's gonna snow soon/end the season anyway and you need to be humpin and get that shit down/inside.
These testers are crazy. Haven't even had the seeds 2 weeks and the leaves are tryin to touch the sides of the 1 gal pots already....
boomshaklaka! Pretty stoked for these. Shootin to have em done by election day. Will flip by Sept 1.
And ALWAYS hit them bitches hard. On 11. They love that shit. Heehee. No mercy!!
Pretty sure "Regalia" also works on PM. Outdoor guys should have some of this on hand, IMO. It's a preventative.....so you watch the weather and if the conditions are coming that are right for the shit to hit....you spray. Haven't used it/don't know about indoor use. Kinda stainks a bit...so you might wanna take em outside..hit em...then put em back in the tent. Just a thought. sounds like it's been pretty wicked this year for some of ya. I dunno how the fuck you grow in all that heat/humidity back there in the Tropics. (anywhere East of central Kansas..LOL) I salute you all. My life is pretty easy here compared to that. Just hailstorms and frost/freeze here. not many bugs. No PM. bud rot only shows if it's a rainy end...and you just end it here rather than fuck around cus once it cools off/gets humid to where that shit will form it's gonna snow soon/end the season anyway and you need to be humpin and get that shit down/inside.
These testers are crazy. Haven't even had the seeds 2 weeks and the leaves are tryin to touch the sides of the 1 gal pots already....
boomshaklaka! Pretty stoked for these. Shootin to have em done by election day. Will flip by Sept 1.
And ALWAYS hit them bitches hard. On 11. They love that shit. Heehee. No mercy!!
Kulla380
Really Active Member
Edit to my previous post.. by "more efficient" I ment that I get to run more strips at same total W output. = More spread
On topic.. I have some Heisen GG4S1 and Adub that a friend bought over a year ago. I'm really hyped testing the gg4, but I've seen some killer Adub phenos on this forum.. Now I can't deside wich one to try out first
I grow in a drip system so running 2 different strains in the same system is something I try to avoid.
Anyone had them both? Suggestions on wich one to try first are wellcome
I only get to grow once or twice a year so it worth giving it some thoughts on what to start with
On topic.. I have some Heisen GG4S1 and Adub that a friend bought over a year ago. I'm really hyped testing the gg4, but I've seen some killer Adub phenos on this forum.. Now I can't deside wich one to try out first
I grow in a drip system so running 2 different strains in the same system is something I try to avoid.
Anyone had them both? Suggestions on wich one to try first are wellcome
I only get to grow once or twice a year so it worth giving it some thoughts on what to start with
So last night was the weekly "pizza night" that my brother in law holds at his house for me, my brother, and one of their friends. I brought one Banana Orange Daiquiri bud and one Topanga Weddiing bud (pre-cure). I took two puffs off the Banana Orange Daiquiri and I was wrecked for a good 2 hours. My brother-in-law took a few puffs of the same and he was babbling nonsense half the night @Heisenbeans , I thought you'd like to know that my brother in law, who's in his mid 50's and is a daily smoker, said that Banana Orange Daiquiri was one of the best smokes he's had. One thing we all thought was that it hits hard, like a modern strain, but the smell of it burning in the air reminded us a lot of some of the weed we smoked in the 80s or 90s...if that makes any sense.
I had to drive home later, so I didn't even try the Topanga Wedding yet, but I will tonight!
@Heisenbeans , I thought you'd like to know that my brother in law, who's in his mid 50's and is a daily smoker, said that Banana Orange Daiquiri was one of the best smokes he's had. One thing we all thought was that it hits hard, like a modern strain, but the smell of it burning in the air reminded us a lot of some of the weed we smoked in the 80s or 90s...if that makes any sense.I had to drive home later, so I didn't even try the Topanga Wedding yet, but I will tonight!
I haven't tried either, but have you thought about trying a blumat system out? I personally like to stick to one strain at a time, too, but if you ever want to mix it up the blumat system would only give each plant what it needs. I got once for my last run and I'll never go back to regular watering.Edit to my previous post.. by "more efficient" I ment that I get to run more strips at same total W output. = More spread
On topic.. I have some Heisen GG4S1 and Adub that a friend bought over a year ago. I'm really hyped testing the gg4, but I've seen some killer Adub phenos on this forum.. Now I can't deside wich one to try out first
I grow in a drip system so running 2 different strains in the same system is something I try to avoid.
Anyone had them both? Suggestions on wich one to try first are wellcome
I only get to grow once or twice a year so it worth giving it some thoughts on what to start with
MtRainDog
Blümen Meister
Both. My preference is more, smaller plants vs. fewer bigger plants. I say this as someone with limited space and challenging grow logistics. All things equal, you will pull the same amount of weight either way. That's mainly light dependent IMO. But I'd rather have more variety in my stash. Can't be smoking the same stuff all day long.Edit to my previous post.. by "more efficient" I ment that I get to run more strips at same total W output. = More spread
On topic.. I have some Heisen GG4S1 and Adub that a friend bought over a year ago. I'm really hyped testing the gg4, but I've seen some killer Adub phenos on this forum.. Now I can't deside wich one to try out first
I grow in a drip system so running 2 different strains in the same system is something I try to avoid.
Anyone had them both? Suggestions on wich one to try first are wellcome
I only get to grow once or twice a year so it worth giving it some thoughts on what to start with
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower
Wait...what?
Use the drip system as normal....feed same levels. If one plant shows a deficiency then just add a little more nutrients by hand.
Kulla380
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I'll have to give this some thoughts an research after I'm done cooking dinner. I'm only a hobbyist so I don't doubt you. I like learning new stuff and are open minded..
But if you use heatsink, shouldn't it matter how fast the heat builds up (hard you drive them) and how fast the heatsinks can "dissipste"? Is that the word to use here?
english is not my native tongue.Hmmm. Now I confused my self. If the ventilstion can remove the heat they build up it wpuldn't matter..
On a other hand running them closer to canopy can be profitable overall..
I'll ve back on the subject if it's ok to go a bit off topic in this thread?
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower
Wait...what?
I'll have to give this some thoughts an research after I'm done cooking dinner. I'm only a hobbyist so I don't doubt you. I like learning new stuff and are open minded..
But if you use heatsink, shouldn't it matter how fast the heat builds up (hard you drive them) and how fast the heatsinks can "dissipste"? Is that the word to use here?
Hmmm. Now I confused my self. If the ventilstion can remove the heat they build up it wpuldn't matter..
On a other hand running them closer to canopy can be profitable overall..
I'll ve back on the subject if it's ok to go a bit off topic in this thread?
Kulla380
Really Active Member
I think I've seem them for sale in my local grow shop. Is it those watering units you stick in soil/coco whatnot and go on with your day? Those would be geeat for multi strain grows..
Yup, they don't rely on electricity, and water based on the water pressure in the soil.
Kulla380
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Kulla380
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Yeah I done that before. I guess the pla ts take up whatever nuts they need.. But I've seen gg4 stretch 3-4-5 times it's vegative grow size so it's sure a gamble running anything else at the same time with gg4.. atleast with my small grow tent
TheSadVeryBadMadGrower
Wait...what?
I had a GG#4 take an entire 3x3 up with 4 weeks of veg only in dwc.
JohnFonda
Tegrity Greenthumb
It's been a bit but with the modern LEDs I think actually running them a bit harder increases the efficiency. It's a very small number so your pretty right about it being the same amount of heat. The heat is hardly just the light heating things up though. . Heat is a byproduct of inefficiency in electronics. There is no friction or moving parts etc so the heat you feel is the resistance converting into heat. Why vapers use resistance coil to heat the wire rapidly. The more efficient something is the more output it has with less heat generated. Locating your drivers outside the tent helps immensely. Use quality speaker wire to run into the tent. Wago that to solid wire and put the solid into your molex. Placing a fan on them or your exhaust will expand the drivers life too. Full blown mine are cool to the touch.