Whip Eurass
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"Imagine...it's easy if you try...all the people sharing all the world...living life in peace."
You dreamer, you.
Anyone else tired of this crap?
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You dreamer, you.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Whip Eurass
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Hey man, it's not Steve's fault that you don't grok his code.
'Tick tock tick dit dit didooo"
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The solution is Jesus. If we can get them kids a prayin in public skool to the one God out there they'll straighten right up and there won't be no more problems. Kids love make believe.
Don't ferget to bring your dollar for the plate though. Jesus is like the Gubmint. Always in yer pocket and tellin ya made up bullshit
Oh fuck...that isn't the crap you were talking about being tired of...
could be a long thread
Don't ferget to bring your dollar for the plate though. Jesus is like the Gubmint. Always in yer pocket and tellin ya made up bullshit
Oh fuck...that isn't the crap you were talking about being tired of...
could be a long thread
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It's alot like the folks who scream "Drinking water should be FREE....it's a right." Yeah...sure thing. Lotsa free water in the river downstream from the refinery.....but you want it from the tap and that is just a bit different. Head to the river if you want "free". Nobody is stopping you.
Being a dummy is free too. Home skoolin by folks who never finished skool. i have a few of those folks in my own family. Poor kids were 8 and 11 and couldn't fuckin read or write a damn thing....and couldn't get in a real school at grade level. the 11 year old had to start in 2nd grade classes...but they knew where the Zoo and the museum was...and Science class was looking at the ice on the lake. and cus they're in a state that is run by fools (R's) ..there's no testin....cus.....um....who waunts the gunminrt tellun ya how tu teech yer kidz? And them buildings? Socialism. Can't have that shit where everyone pays in for the collective good.
By god...i'ma gonna drive down there and give them a piece of my mind about giving shit away!. Gotta stop by the church to pray first though.....
Highland Rogue
Really Active Member
Good point. I'd add government schools already have failed, since they rely on extortion rather than mutual exchange for their funding.
Imagine if Walmart said, "oh you can shop at other stores, but you have to pay us, whether you want us or not and even if you don't use us".
Immediately people would call bullshit on that.
Which is why government schools have "succeeded" in their true purpose, to indoctrinate people to obey authority.
Highland Rogue
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I see your point and agree that religion shouldn't be forced on others, but neither should funding government schools be forced on others .
The solution is freedom of choice. It's peaceful and respects individuals.
Even when we don't share others beliefs, we shouldn't impose our beliefs on others or force people to pay for our ideas and threaten to steal their homes if they won't fund our ideas. Good ideas don't require force.
Yes, this could be a long thread.
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Tax free churches means I'm funding the belief in a fake God....so hey...if my kids get to go to school on yer dime and you get to play "make believe" on mine......we're even. You can bet the church didn't pay for that turn lane into the parking lot the same way you/I would have to pay if we set up a BUSINESS on the same street and were required to do so. And the guy who drove down to City Hall to complain about socialism and folks gettin "free stuff"?? Yup...he drove on roads we all paid for...like the schools and fire depts and police protection (a failure..but we pay the clowns anyway) and the military and Don's Parade and all the other Socialist based programs we've collected along the way. (Socialist Security, anyone? you paid in...but not enough...so unless you jump ship@ about 77..."yer ridin for free as well) Look it up if you don't believe me. Half the folks talking about "takers" ..um...ARE "takers" themselves.
But let's not talk about that. It's GOTTA BE the illeguls and folks who can't find work/who are down on their luck who are takers. Not hard workin 'mericans. LOFL. Especially when they get handout checks. That ISN'T Socialism though. Got that....libtard? LOFL.
Such fun. What next?
But let's not talk about that. It's GOTTA BE the illeguls and folks who can't find work/who are down on their luck who are takers. Not hard workin 'mericans. LOFL. Especially when they get handout checks. That ISN'T Socialism though. Got that....libtard? LOFL.
Such fun. What next?
Highland Rogue
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Just so you know the Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't fake, I ate some of his flesh last night and still have the tomato sauce stains to prove it. His remains are in a Tupperware bowl in my fridge.
So you believe if you are forced to subsidize something you don't use and don't believe in, others should be forced to subsidize something they don't believe in too? Mutual dissatisfaction ? Hmmm. I'm hoping for something better.
What if people simply paid the providers of servicers when they use them and didn't pay them when they chose not to use them or used somebody else? Like we do with grocery stores. You don't advocate shopping at Super Market A, but being forced to pay Super Market B do you? Would that work for you ?
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Everybody paying their own way would work fabulously here. We do it ourselves. Full self-funded retirement @ 55. (I have a small amount in SS I can tap but most of my working years/retirement contributions were outside of that system...ditto my wife) Funny how ya don't have to pay into SS when you work for Gov't's/etc. huh? Now ya see why they wanna fuck with it all the time.
Like many who have also retired.....we aren't forced to pay a whole lot of anything cus we don't have an income. and living in a Red county where nobody wants to pay for >anything<....we don't pay shit for "property taxes" either.
Ah...but I >am< forced to pay for others to 'pray". Don't do it myself...but I (and the country) pay anyway. 75 BILLION or so last year of freebies for the "Lard". Until we change that...i say 'whatever'. Folks only target (whine about) the things THEY don''t use or fail to see as important.....or more frequently...about programs they know nothing about. ("those illeguls get free stuff")
Like church? Nah...that's different. LOL.
Like many who have also retired.....we aren't forced to pay a whole lot of anything cus we don't have an income. and living in a Red county where nobody wants to pay for >anything<....we don't pay shit for "property taxes" either.
Ah...but I >am< forced to pay for others to 'pray". Don't do it myself...but I (and the country) pay anyway. 75 BILLION or so last year of freebies for the "Lard". Until we change that...i say 'whatever'. Folks only target (whine about) the things THEY don''t use or fail to see as important.....or more frequently...about programs they know nothing about. ("those illeguls get free stuff")
Like church? Nah...that's different. LOL.
Highland Rogue
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Well, that's true. So it's possible when I whine about paying for something I don't want and don't use and you whine about something you don't want and don't use, we could both be right.
Neither of us should be forced to subsidize the other. If you don't like my idea in a given area, I would be wrong to force you pay for it, if you don't use it right?
So how do we stop doing that, so you get what you want and I get what I want and neither of us tries to advocate for "equal misery" ?
Who imposes the equal misery and should we stop it, then becomes the question.
NoWaistedSpace
I'm Hoarding Skunk
This is a big experiment! Think of the movie "Trading Places". Prolly a person bet of some of the Elites just to see how far peoples of the world could be tricked into following their suggestions/demands.
Is Yellowstone acting up again?
I can't wait for the Asteroid strike around Halloween.
Highland Rogue
Really Active Member
They should issue a Governator "executive order" to lockdown Yellowstone and make it wear a mask.
Threatening to cough lava and dust on everyone! Shame on you Yellowstone!
SoLowDoughLow
Mediocre grower
A lot of people don't understand socialism. It's when the government owns the means of production. Like a factory producing goods for example. It's not fire and police departments.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Which gets you warehouses full of ventilators that are not needed from the latest scamdemic. Gave 'em away to other countries.
More government is bad. Always. Free market capitalism works. If America is so terrible why do we donate money to every shithole nation that hates us? We fund the lions share of any global organizations we are part of (ooopsie, fucked that one up WHO) and IMO that needs to stop. Ain't helped us a bit.
hhibrownsbacker
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I myself like the way it is now. Having my roads repaired, police protection, fire stations, schools systems, water and sewer systems, trash removal (and the list goes on and on)taken care of for me thru taxation is working just fine for me. The idea of using only what you pay for is a fantasy
hhibrownsbacker
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VOTE - You want to change things, thats how you do it.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
That was solely about schools. What if you dropped public schools to 8 years. High school is when half the kids stop giving a shit. Make it voluntary from that point on.
The problem with taxes - with no term limits - is that they keep finding more and more ways to spend those tax dollars to get votes - and collect more taxes.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
For example - what are the exorbitant taxes in NY or Cali getting those people that I don't have for much less taxes in another state? From what I see it isn't going to police or their training - which is a government responsibility (public safety)