#Heisenbeans Genetics

Boybelue

Super Active Member
The herm trait is in the Gene's. It makes no difference how you get the plant reversed her pollen is not gonna be some magical mix of genetically altered dna. That is just bro science bullshit.
The only way to stop herms 100 percent is use crosses that are tested out. Use plants that have no issues. I have tossed out some bad ass plants because no matter what you do they just wanna have hermie babies.
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Boybelue

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A back cross or BX is to the original parent period. Dont care what anyone else says.
If I cross cake to punch and than select a keeper and cross it back to either the punch or cake that is a BX. Crossing to the same strain but not the original parent IS NOT A BX. Theres alot of bro science and mixed up terms. If someone is selling you a bx that either child plant wasnt crossed to the parent than your NOT getting a BX.

A bx is a shortcut to stabilizing a strain instead of selecting F generations.
Yes this is exactly what I was stating, I think where people get mixed up is not understanding it has to be mom or dad, can’t be grandma or grandpa
 
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Heisen

Dont Need One
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This confuses me too. I think what you're describing is the cubing process for creating an IBL.

Whereas typically backcrossing looks more like this:

If I wanted to back cross to let's say wedding cake (WC) and I have something like (WC X OG)

Then the back cross would look like

WC X (WC X OG) = BX1

But I'm with you, I don't understand what a BX2 or BX3 is, or how it differs from the cubing process
A bx 3 would be crossing a bx2 child back to the parent. Your selecting whatever parent you want the child seeds to represent and going back to the original mom. It's the fastest way to stabilize a strain instead of just selecting 2 child plants and breeding them together and tossing out the parents.
 

Heisen

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Well I think what some breeders are calling IX these days is taking two different filial generations of the same strain and crossing them, say a F2 x F6 which in filial terms should be an F1 again but I believe some are calling those IX’s
Or crossing two IBLs is referred to IX
Well considering IBL lines come from wild plants that are bred together over time from F generations. It's impossible to get a BX IBL when in nature the parents die and the seeds sprout to make new offspring. Its generations of this process that create IBL not BX. A BX is a man made term used to back cross to the original parent. It can only be man made because were able to keep clones alive for several generations.
 

KMOG

Always rockin’ at half mast
If it's not an opinion you should b able to prove what you are saying. If you can't provide proof it's your opinion.......let's just call it what it is...."bro science"

Garlic, marrigolds, whatever, we are talking about plants, horticulture.....I'm saying your theory is bunk. You are making untrue claims about an ANNUAL plant. Put up the science for an annual changing it's spots over time..... a clone no less. It's total opinion dude, you are not god, plant's are not changing their physical make ups based on your "opinion"
Og in every room it’s grown in....same cut grown inside under my leds and cmh looks like a different plant than when I grow it under my hps cmh.....it’s easily verifiable//documented on here. Pretty sure you can find articles on it as well if you use the google.
 

Bc_ca

Super Active Member
quality time with your plants allows development of innate grower care. I chose a specific grower’s genetics (ideology)(Heisenbeans) and focused development of my growing experience. Even I am rewarded hugely with a room full of HB hand selected genetic powerful potential plants. Define a life experience
By integrity of the intention is a selected journey.
I do not want mediocre genetics. Wtf!
I want intense searches for S1 and crosses over the top grow potential.
We are on a whole different level of flower experience...
 

Heisen

Dont Need One
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quality time with your plants allows development of innate grower care. I chose a specific grower’s genetics (ideology)(Heisenbeans) and focused development of my growing experience. Even I am rewarded hugely with a room full of HB hand selected genetic powerful potential plants. Define a life experience
By integrity of the intention is a selected journey.
I do not want mediocre genetics. Wtf!
I want intense searches for S1 and crosses over the top grow potential.
We are on a whole different level of flower experience...
I have to run a carbon scrubber in my veg room man if that tells you anything. Just taking a few cuts has me smelling like I been trimming all day.
 

J.James

Seed Slingin' Outlaw
Breeder
Og in every room it’s grown in....same cut grown inside under my leds and cmh looks like a different plant than when I grow it under my hps cmh.....it’s easily verifiable//documented on here. Pretty sure you can find articles on it as well if you use the google.
Environment has a lot to do with what traits a plant exhibits but it doesn't change the plant. I see traits come out in plants outside in full sun that I never see full expressed in plants under LEDs but it is still the same plant.
 

Boybelue

Super Active Member
Well considering IBL lines come from wild plants that are bred together over time from F generations. It's impossible to get a BX IBL when in nature the parents die and the seeds sprout to make new offspring. Its generations of this process that create IBL not BX. A BX is a man made term used to back cross to the original parent. It can only be man made because were able to keep clones alive for several generations.
I was referring to worked polyhybrid IBLs which are near impossible because so much is in the mix it’s a very difficult task, I’ve seen more than one breeder refer to these as IX’s, I guess you were referring more to land races, which none of this would be related to backcrossing so you lost me there! Lol
 

J.James

Seed Slingin' Outlaw
Breeder
I was referring to worked polyhybrid IBLs which are near impossible because so much is in the mix it’s a very difficult task, I’ve seen more than one breeder refer to these as IX’s, I guess you were referring more to land races, which none of this would be related to backcrossing so you lost me there! Lol
Tom Hill's PTK was the last IBL I was gifted, When researching the line I found that they took 200 F1 - F6 PTK's and open pollinated them in a field and called it a IBL.
 

Boybelue

Super Active Member
Environment has a lot to do with what traits a plant exhibits but it doesn't change the plant. I see traits come out in plants outside in full sun that I never see full expressed in plants under LEDs but it is still the same plant.
I agree with this, plants don’t change genetically but physically they do by different expressions. Plants acclimate to their environment, when you move a plant from indoors to outside it has to acclimate to the outdoor enviorment, if you don’t believe this just throw a plant straight outside under full sun and see what happens. You have to gently let the plant acclimate by giving it a few hours at a time until it gets adjusted.
 

Bodyne

PICK YOUR OWN
Tom Hill's PTK was the last IBL I was gifted, When researching the line I found that they took 200 F1 - F6 PTK's and open pollinated them in a field and called it a IBL.
And it still won't be potent, but breeding material. Just like cripple Creek and deep chunk. Beautifully structured indicas. Great guy, lots o work out in, yet..........
 

Heisen

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I was referring to worked polyhybrid IBLs which are near impossible because so much is in the mix it’s a very difficult task, I’ve seen more than one breeder refer to these as IX’s, I guess you were referring more to land races, which none of this would be related to backcrossing so you lost me there! Lol
A breeder making true IBL I have a waterfront condo in Pakistan I'll sell you.
 

Heisen

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I was referring to worked polyhybrid IBLs which are near impossible because so much is in the mix it’s a very difficult task, I’ve seen more than one breeder refer to these as IX’s, I guess you were referring more to land races, which none of this would be related to backcrossing so you lost me there! Lol
Landraces are IBL. ibl stands for "in bred line"
That means landrace plants that are grown together in the wild. They can only be bred to themselves.
 
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