Armdog
RDWC GROWER
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#Heisenbeans Genetics
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Promedz
Zeus
They look great, but this is not riu press that Full image button! Lol
sfrigon1
Seed Aficionado
Just switched myself
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Like I said...I don't make a habit of badmouthing folks wares. Can't say I >haven't< done it...but these days there are so many seeds available I just move along and grow something else. I've done large scale hunts...but that was when I was like you and the other guys running large numbers who are "growing for a rea$on"......(that'd be a Benjamin reason ).
And for conversations sake...I'll say that I personally never pop just one seed. I like to pop 3-4.....and from those...I may not find the "grail' in the pack but I can usually get an idea if the plants are gonna taste/yield/interest me in any way/etc. If those 3-4 plants suck for my tastes/parameters/etc....it makes me damn glad I didn't waste anymore time and space on that pack. If they rock...I can then run the rest of the pack and look for the best of those plants...or take a chance with a seed/seeds from that pack outside and hope I hit a home run.
BigBallzWillie
BE THE BALL
Fair enough, but exactly how many mediocre plants in a pack of 6 gives you the right to gripe? A couple is 30% of the pack. I never see any seeds being sold, mentioning a percentage of acceptable mediocrity in the pack.
gwheels
Hobby Farmer
Slot Machine...1 in 96000Catching one lunker is cool. But that dudes one big fish doesnāt compare to dozens of fish the guys that go every day catch on a regular basis. Itās generally kids I see with the best luck catching jackpot fish on the random.
Maybe you guys popping single seeds should have your kids pick them
I bet my keepers out of hundreds of seeds of the same strain are better than any Single bean ālunkersā out there, heisen probably has similar plants. Itās called hunting for a reason, itās more of single pheno strain discover with one bean. Like, yeah you happened to get lucky and find a good pheno in a couple beans. But I bet thereās a better one if you pop 250. Thatās a 1/250 chance of finding the best plant of those 250. Which I bet happens. But the likeliness of your 1 bean of 10 in the pack of thousands of beans that came off one plant is the best pheno you could find.....thatās much shittier odds.
250/1000 = 25% chance of finding the best keeper of all beans produced
1/1000 = .1% chance....You have 10% chance of finding the best pheno in that pack....lol
Lottery (649) 1 in 14 million.
perspective is funny. If you had a 10% chance to live you would freak out but give me a 1 in 10 at winning a house and here is 100 for a ticket.
Fishing is a great analogly but the more you cast the better the chance at getting a monster....like tournament fishing. And if you have ever done that its less than a fun day on the lake but...when they are on FISH ON WHAM WHAM WHAM.
Pick the best 5 and go get a prize. But some dude in his boat and a fish finder CAN beat you...the odds are pretty stacked against him but....
I cant complain i have had great luck with a pack of punch. 3 great phenos but i would like to run 2 more packs to narrow it down in bud shape and a little harder on the grapes. The hunt is kind of exciting.
Unless you get some rotten shoe funk phenos...that is not exciting at all.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I can understand this better than a more experienced grower I think. It's a quest for knowledge. I bought several packs in the auction on here, and knew nothing about any of the strains. I dropped one seed per pack, knowing that I had the full pack left to run. Did the same with some freebies that were sent.
For me it's limited space. After chopping 10 different females of different strains, I was able to get a perspective of what I was excited to grow and what could wait.
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I have the knowledge...that's why I don't make and hock seeds...LOL. I knows betta....
While were on this.....um......the truth is that sometimes all you get is a small look from a pack anyway. I had a Hell of a time with the PP S-1's...Purple Dreams...and P-bubs. Got 2 P-Bubs to pop from the 5 I wet in the pack .....got one Purple Dream from 2 pops..2 the first time..total no go...,3 in the next...finally got a tail/plant on the second attempt. PP S-1 took 2 attempts as well. Got 2 from that pack to grow...again..after 2 attempts. Did ya hear any bitching from that? It was a sad showing here. Not much to show for the dough as they say. Being honest as always...I said nada cus I didn't wanna hear the "grower error" shit so I just took the hit and went on. So...um...not all of us badmouth folks wares when shit doesn't work out...for whatever reason. They are seeds. I have more. I just move on. Coulda been some nice plants in there but if they won't grow ...um...yeah. Have a seed left of each....and I'll grow em at some point...but..... they didn't call me back for a repeat pop or have me looking to snag more packs. I just moved on.
I'm fishing here.....but it's catch and release now. I used to pop and clone everything..."just in case"......you know..."the Grail" and all...
All I did was end up with a shit ton of clones... heehhee. It's all good though. We are all merely at different places on this road... one guy walking slow...one guy running. Same path. A guy can think he's the first to walk the path but he'd be wrong. Well worn, it is....
While were on this.....um......the truth is that sometimes all you get is a small look from a pack anyway. I had a Hell of a time with the PP S-1's...Purple Dreams...and P-bubs. Got 2 P-Bubs to pop from the 5 I wet in the pack .....got one Purple Dream from 2 pops..2 the first time..total no go...,3 in the next...finally got a tail/plant on the second attempt. PP S-1 took 2 attempts as well. Got 2 from that pack to grow...again..after 2 attempts. Did ya hear any bitching from that? It was a sad showing here. Not much to show for the dough as they say. Being honest as always...I said nada cus I didn't wanna hear the "grower error" shit so I just took the hit and went on. So...um...not all of us badmouth folks wares when shit doesn't work out...for whatever reason. They are seeds. I have more. I just move on. Coulda been some nice plants in there but if they won't grow ...um...yeah. Have a seed left of each....and I'll grow em at some point...but..... they didn't call me back for a repeat pop or have me looking to snag more packs. I just moved on.
I'm fishing here.....but it's catch and release now. I used to pop and clone everything..."just in case"......you know..."the Grail" and all...
All I did was end up with a shit ton of clones... heehhee. It's all good though. We are all merely at different places on this road... one guy walking slow...one guy running. Same path. A guy can think he's the first to walk the path but he'd be wrong. Well worn, it is....
NoWaistedSpace
PICK YOUR OWN
I can't post on IG, I do not own a "cell phone".
Can't post pics from a computer on IG.
KMOG
Always rockinā at half mast
Thatās why breeders are breeders and lots of people want/have their cuts. And your keepers are...your keepers. Lol. Iām just saying, the odds are not in your favor. Potency isnāt an opinion...
The only growers that say they find as good of phenos in 3 beans as 200, are the ones that only pop 3 beans.
KMOG
Always rockinā at half mast
Me too I left some fucknugget a bad review now people with fake cuts donāt want anything to do with me...
Promedz
Zeus
Potent like your pp cut? Lmao i canāt even rn! Your one of them no it alls that donāt no it all but okay whatever you say buddy! How about you just keep telling ppl to raise there light! Or how they arenāt doing it your way! And keep it moving! Arrogant ass
KMOG
Always rockinā at half mast
Lol. Youāre ad hominem because you donāt have the experience and donāt understand statistics lol. If you popped 197 more beans, youād find your 1 in 3 pheno and have 197 more chances to find something you personally or everyone else would Like better. Itās funny hearing somebody on this forum talking shot about any cut of pp. especially novas, which sort of Looks just like the other one being run around here. If you read my posts, I donāt smoke it because itās crap lol. People like it though(most likely the 1 in 3 ultimate pheno guys). I donāt understand why youāre mad about the fact that if you pop more beans, you have better chances of finding better plants.
You just got so upset about me talking about how your odds get better popping more beans you started attacking me personally lol. And if you look around, you can find plants I call keepers, and Iāve seen what you post.....I have more, better plants. Iāve popped over 1000 beans this year And I hve most of the og elites....thatās just how it goes.
Letās do this, post pics of the best cuts you have personally found. And I will try to find at least 5 phenos Iāve found for every one of your that looks as good or better. Work for you?