Thoughts and prayers man, thoughts and prayers LOLI just got home and saw fresh baked cookies. 3/4 way through one my GF said omg which one did you eat?? Looked at the tray - that's the strongest one! Decarbbed kief cookies
I know better. See you on the other side
LMAO and I thought I was gonna get some shit done tonight. I gotta work in the morning!
A hot buddered drink drops that to the 20-30 minute range
That Panasonic bathroom vent is expensive a.f. and my local blowes don’t even carry them. Good call on the a/c infinity.
Just got the S8. Hooked it up to my 8 x 24 Phresh filter. Turned it down to 50%. Turned it down to 25%.
Thanks Spyral. Most fans like the Infinity are made to be very powerful. The more powerful they are the louder they are. Many of the hydro shop fans are built for power.@Hotwired great real-life comparison. Thanks for testing and sharing your results. This is the kinda stuff that makes this community so great. I love a good Pepsi challenge, I do that with all kinda shit
Thanks for sharing the info. Nice to see a side by sideJust got the S8. Hooked it up to my 8 x 24 Phresh filter. Turned it down to 50%. Turned it down to 25%.
Put the fan back in the box and wrapped it up. Sent an email for an RMA.
Sorry guys but the fan does NOT run @ 39 db as advertised. At full speed the S8 was at least 80db. Damn thing sounded like a jet liner and was louder than my central A/C. At 50% is was probably around 60db. I'm not exactly sure because I don't have a meter but I compared it to my Panasonic 340 cfm @ 1.7 sones (around 35db) and when I put the S8 to 25% if finally equaled the sound of my Panasonic.
THIS is a true test guys..............and I'm kind of glad I did it. This is why you can't knock something until you try it. A side by side always works wonders and the truth comes out. So I lost a few $$ for shipping. At least I proved to myself that the Panasonic is a much quieter fan and carries more cfm at a lower sound level.
So when they advertised the sound level @ 39db they probably meant at lowest speed. IMO that's bad advertising and it bothers me a bit. So I send it back and get my Panasonic 440 cfm and will gladly pay extra money for a fan that lasts for 10 plus years and you can hardly hear it.
It's easy to say something is better than something else. It's harder to prove when you don't have a comparison to back it up. I knew those fans were funky when I first saw them. Same style and shape as the old S&P TD line. But I said fuck it and ordered one for the comparison.
I've already used all the "hydro shop" fans. They don't change. It's the fans you don't know about that might be what you need.
Fact - Panasonic more expensive but way quieter
Fact - Panasonic fans have lasted me 10 plus years going 24/7
Fact - Panasonic fans are bulky as shit and weigh a ton, but they fit right on top of a sturdy filter with no problems.
Fans are an integral part of what we do. I spent months and months purchasing all sorts of fans over a decade ago. I feel I have a lot of knowledge in this area. But when H.A.F. said he found a great fan I gave it a shot. It's always worth it to give something new a try and see for yourself. Especially when the retailer gives free return shipping
Thanks for sharing that info @Hotwired . I would be willing to bet that panasonic is the quietest one out there. That is a pretty big deal when trying to be stealthy. The design it self would make sense it is less noise ( more room for insulation).Thanks Spyral. Most fans like the Infinity are made to be very powerful. The more powerful they are the louder they are. Many of the hydro shop fans are built for power.
Power = the ability to run at a % of strength thru a length of duct or bends. This is why some manufacturers give you charts so you can see how the length or obstructions will affect cfm. Like the Wg or Sp charts.
The Panasonic was typically made for straight line runs. It is not as powerful as these other fans so it can be made to be more quiet. So a very short run from the reflector to the filter is really nothing in terms of Sp loss. The filter would be your biggest cfm loss but if you get a large enough filter you wont lose much cfm at all.
For example, many filters are rated @ 1 sp. A chart will show you how much cfm you will lose for that rating. Hydro shop fans aren't affected much by 1 full sp because they are made to be powerful and don't have a big drop off. But the Panasonic will be affected some because of it having less power.
It's a trade off I'm willing to accept because of the sound level. It still does the job 24/7 and they never bother me at all
I am not sure what you are saying on differences in power between the Panasonic and other fans. If you have a panasonic 8" 440 cfm and a ideal air inline fan with the same rating of 440 cfm is there a difference in the two units other than noise level?Thanks Spyral. Most fans like the Infinity are made to be very powerful. The more powerful they are the louder they are. Many of the hydro shop fans are built for power.
Power = the ability to run at a % of strength thru a length of duct or bends. This is why some manufacturers give you charts so you can see how the length or obstructions will affect cfm. Like the Wg or Sp charts.
The Panasonic was typically made for straight line runs. It is not as powerful as these other fans so it can be made to be more quiet. So a very short run from the reflector to the filter is really nothing in terms of Sp loss. The filter would be your biggest cfm loss but if you get a large enough filter you wont lose much cfm at all.
For example, many filters are rated @ 1 sp. A chart will show you how much cfm you will lose for that rating. Hydro shop fans aren't affected much by 1 full sp because they are made to be powerful and don't have a big drop off. But the Panasonic will be affected some because of it having less power.
It's a trade off I'm willing to accept because of the sound level. It still does the job 24/7 and they never bother me at all
Punisher just posted the reason in another thread I made to compare the fans. The Panasonic is more of a "squirrel" type cage fan and the ideal is a centrifugal fan. Centrifugal fans are made to be more powerful with a different motor for much higher torque. The reason for the higher torque is to be efficient thru longer runs.
Okay i get it now. Same kind of fan i might see in a dehumidifier. I can see where each has its purpose as well. Perfect for setting right on the filter for recirculating.
