Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
Now do calcium nitrate
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
Now do some elements that we give our plants. Please tell me what boron, copper and sulpher will do to you when smoked and inhaled. Show me that sheet, if youâre using that to support you telling me that Iâm telling people to use this, rather than how, youâre going to need a new argument.
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Is this the same thing as dutchmasters reverse? I know they use the chemical in reverse for making seedless watermelons.
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Nevermind the chemical I'm thinking of is colchicine
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I am agreeing that the product mentioned is dangerous, but using the MSDS as a source is not really helpful. That's like citing CNN or Fox as a news source.
If you had to deal with MSDS on the regular (as did I) you know that it is not there for your safety. It is a legal document to prevent lawsuits against all the chemical companies for producing something dangerous that idiots misuse. Anything and everything that can possibly go wrong is included as a legal barrier. Like the "WARNING: COFFEE MAY BE HOT" label.
It is good for deciding which type of filter cartridge you may need on your respirator while dealing with it, but that's just about the major compounds in it, not what they do. Other than that MSDS's are pretty useless. The warning label on a product is usually the most effective - especially those with the fold-out 20-page pamphlets glued to a 4oz bottle of something
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
If it helps you have a little faith in my judgement, I had no clue what I would find when I searched for the MSDS for water - but I know how MSDS work. Most of the document says nothing, which is why I included the link. But there is ALWAYS some cut-n-paste bullshit that seems to be there only to cover someone's ass.
what problem did the cookies and crosses have@H.A.F.FYI - watch the French Macaron like a hawk. Mine tossed nuts a few days shy of 8 weeks.
French Macaron
F/M
Female/Male...
F*ck cookies and its crosses. Platinum or whatever I have no use for it.
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
Seems like youâre the only schmuck here. Lol, sit down and learn something kiddo. Everyone loves to talk shit on these bs forums, the truth is you know next to nothing about botany or plant science, your precisely the reason that I almost never visit these sites, youâre not my peer, not even close, youre just guessing here and have no field or scientific evidence to support your claims. Zero. On the other hand, I saw a total of 5 400 plant rooms sprayed with shift last week, a company with shareholders and a stock price, and theyâre not the only ones doing it. Lol. Seriously man, you need to go to school and youâd know whatâs going on after itâs sprayed. Thatâs where I learned it. A college just for agro, you learn about all five plant hormones amongst many other things and yes ethylene is one of them. If you care to read up on it, look for the conversions of 2-chloroethylphosphonic acid into ethylene. Iâm done with this and you kiddo.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Here's the part where you prove you are an idiot.
You know none of us, our careers, our qualifications, etc. but you "know" you are better than us...
I've known cats like you before, we called them "one-uppers". No matter what you had done , they did it better, or first, of got paid mmpore for it, or whatever.
If you went to college for agro you learned salt science. Everything else is hocus-pocus to the college scene which is supported by Big Ag and promotes students into their industry.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
My problem with them is they are either decent smoke or they herm. Never had any that rocked my world, and even the culls were pretty until they threw those nanners. It's kids have potential to hunt through, but you better keep a clone of the one that did well because the rest probably suck. Probably why there are so many cookie-pheno or cookie-hybrid clone-only's.
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
Never said anything of the sort. Youâre an idiot and Iâll leave you to your ways.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Also - anyone comparing cannabis to any other form of industrial agriculture is pretty lame. The sheer number of traits and genes contained in the plant is vastly more than any other cash crop. And the more we learn the more we know we don't know about everythig that is in there and how it works. From terps to flavinoids, all cannabinoids, thiols, esters, all interacting in each plant in a different way.
After doing a lot of reading and listening to breeders on podcasts I think trying to select a "keeper male" requires more time and effort than many are willing to put into one project. Testing lots of seeds to see what he gave that others didn't and having to test the seeds from those other males too...
We have no clue genetically what traits we may be excluding from a strain as we select for certain other traits. IMHO if making seeds I'd want to use every male in available and keep that line pure and wide open.
We don't know what we don't know, and there won't be enough research until it is federally de-scheduled and federal grants start flying to buy votes. Universities will also be getting funded by big pharma to find this or that specific thing they can put in a pill and sell. All the Big Ag and Big Pharma will dump shitloads into R&D to try and mold the plant into what they need or figure out how to replicate it in a lab.
After doing a lot of reading and listening to breeders on podcasts I think trying to select a "keeper male" requires more time and effort than many are willing to put into one project. Testing lots of seeds to see what he gave that others didn't and having to test the seeds from those other males too...
We have no clue genetically what traits we may be excluding from a strain as we select for certain other traits. IMHO if making seeds I'd want to use every male in available and keep that line pure and wide open.
We don't know what we don't know, and there won't be enough research until it is federally de-scheduled and federal grants start flying to buy votes. Universities will also be getting funded by big pharma to find this or that specific thing they can put in a pill and sell. All the Big Ag and Big Pharma will dump shitloads into R&D to try and mold the plant into what they need or figure out how to replicate it in a lab.
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
My garden runs on Goats and ducks, and plants from the fresh water around here, Iâve got the pics to prove it too, so I laugh at your suggestions of salts on MY garden. But yeah, there are those that ask my advice that use salts, I have no problem with them, they cost a lot, but if you know how to use them with labs and fpe and some enzyme, and only âsaltâ the root zone to around 1.4ec youâre golden. So salts be damned, the goal is a high brix plant for flavours and terps. Get the the same way no matter what, oneâs easier and ones cheaper.
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
Go to sleep old man.
H.A.F.
a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Really???
This is the last effort I'll put in before hitting ignore. Really showed your colors today...
Lanestrainley
Really Active Member
That hurts eh? Actual science and not your bro science.
Streetpro09
Tester
I'm bored so I'll poke a little. Which one is it bud? Can't keep it straight in your head? Try to prove anything much? Full of yourself much? Are you sure you know what you're doing?