I agree. My oran jones cross did that too. I popped a handful while fresh and thought the mom was kicking out mutants. Then a few weeks later popped some more and no mutants.I just wanted to comment on the "odd" leaf structures that are showing up.
It's common with very fresh seeds to get "odd" or just plain weird leaves for the first couple sets. (Generally speaking this will sort itself out as the plant matures). That same seeds that produced the "odd" leaf would probably not have produced the weird leaves if they had been popped a couple months or even just weeks later. How do I know? Because I've popped seeds too soon and had every one of them put off weird, twisted or deformed leaves. But then I waited a while to try again and seeds from the exact same seed batch no longer put off weird leaves. I have seen this happen many times over the years. I've seen it happen with seeds that are old as well or with seeds that were started in too cold/hot of conditions where it took a week to pop.
When seeds don't pop quite right it must damage something and create this problem, seeds that are too fresh just don't pop as cleanly and perfectly as fully ripened seeds do. But as I stated, they will almost always sort themselves out before they start to put off true fan leaves. Still, with these new seeds I'd suggest waiting a while longer to pop them, that's if you are getting freaky deaky leaves anyway. Just put your beans someplace very dry and cool for a couple weeks and try again.
By the way, one of the most potent plants I've ever grown started life as a really bad freaky deaky and it's leaves never did fully straighten out, even at the end there were twists on them, but it was bomb diggity weed all the same and it was a large producer too. It just took longer to veg than usual.
I wonder if that is the case with the mutant wp x bbc i have. At first it shot out 1 huge leave, and the stem grew and then put out a twisted leave, and it purs out leaves at random places. Im trying to wait to let it grow out of it but its going on 3 weeks.I just wanted to comment on the "odd" leaf structures that are showing up.
It's common with very fresh seeds to get "odd" or just plain weird leaves for the first couple sets. (Generally speaking this will sort itself out as the plant matures). That same seeds that produced the "odd" leaf would probably not have produced the weird leaves if they had been popped a couple months or even just weeks later. How do I know? Because I've popped seeds too soon and had every one of them put off weird, twisted or deformed leaves. But then I waited a while to try again and seeds from the exact same seed batch no longer put off weird leaves. I have seen this happen many times over the years. I've seen it happen with seeds that are old as well or with seeds that were started in too cold/hot of conditions where it took a week to pop.
When seeds don't pop quite right it must damage something and create this problem, seeds that are too fresh just don't pop as cleanly and perfectly as fully ripened seeds do. But as I stated, they will almost always sort themselves out before they start to put off true fan leaves. Still, with these new seeds I'd suggest waiting a while longer to pop them, that's if you are getting freaky deaky leaves anyway. Just put your beans someplace very dry and cool for a couple weeks and try again.
By the way, one of the most potent plants I've ever grown started life as a really bad freaky deaky and it's leaves never did fully straighten out, even at the end there were twists on them, but it was bomb diggity weed all the same and it was a large producer too. It just took longer to veg than usual.
That's what it looks like to me and I've seen it a few times. I'd bet that eventually it will straighten out, but if it's worth the time or not, is hard to say. Without plant limits I know I'd let it grow, just to see.I wonder if that is the case with the mutant wp x bbc i have. At first it shot out 1 huge leave, and the stem grew and then put out a twisted leave, and it purs out leaves at random places. Im trying to wait to let it grow out of it but its going on 3 weeks.
The parts where you see the broken off leaves are from me taking off the big deformed leaves.
Exactly!! I wonder how many people have tossed out perfectly good beans because of this, or even tossed out entire strain lines? I came close to ditching a batch of mine the first time it happened.I agree. My oran jones cross did that too. I popped a handful while fresh and thought the mom was kicking out mutants. Then a few weeks later popped some more and no mutants.
I’d leave the deformed leaves on. It will help the plant grow out of any issues quicker. Sometimes plants never recover though or are just bad and need to be culled.I wonder if that is the case with the mutant wp x bbc i have. At first it shot out 1 huge leave, and the stem grew and then put out a twisted leave, and it purs out leaves at random places. Im trying to wait to let it grow out of it but its going on 3 weeks.View attachment 5841View attachment 5842View attachment 5843
The parts where you see the broken off leaves are from me taking off the big deformed leaves.
I thought if i took them off it would put more energy into making ro top most part grow, helping it to grow out. I also did a slurry test on the soil, its 6.0 promix with extra perlite. I mix my nutes to 6.2- 6.6 i just gave it nutes for the first time sunday. Ill give it another week or 2. Im trying to do heisens seeds some justice.I’d leave the deformed leaves on. It will help the plant grow out of any issues quicker. Sometimes plants never recover though or are just bad and need to be culled.
This is the best way to get free seeds, at least for me and how I'm forced to grow. That or pick your own free seeds, like he did with the sale.All of my packs were at least a couple seeds heavy.
4 packs- a 7, an 8, and two 9 baggers.
Almost did just that, but a year later they pop and are getting tested.Exactly!! I wonder how many people have tossed out perfectly good beans because of this, or even tossed out entire strain lines?
Couldn't agree more. Some folks have been having 'contests' with prizes being excess seeds in the stash from over collecting good deals. Who doesn't love deals and sales? But when they end up not getting used it just feels wrong.If anything I'd rather not have seeds I know I won't grow, it seems like such a waste.
Hey bro hope you been goodI got 2 Skeleton Cookies, 2 WW , 2 SD X WC ( Wedding Driver what I am calling it ) going , 100% germ rate and no mutants, maybe You guys got Yours faster and I am benefitting from the mail taking 2 weeks to get to Me Internationally
exactly! could even be Pyro himselfX men team member
2 of the wc x sd did have some weird leaf issues and they grew out of it in no time but the one was really fucked up. It popped out with only 1 cotyledon, oozing this pus like goop where the other should have been. And had a hole in the one good cotyledon that was also oozing. 2ish weeks later its still exactly the same minus the oozing.
No problem .. I hope One of them comes and fixes it for you soonThanks for trying Brother.
They might’ve done it as a joke and forgot to switch it back over but still I can understand your frustrationThanks for trying Brother.