I forgot about the Toadies, thanks for reminding me @Zaphod420I come from the water (that weren't no easy thing) so I have decided to go DWC wide open 1200 > ppm with a shot of Brawndo(cuz it's got electrolytes), Grade A Maple syrup, and the whole shit. You and I will do just fine with a 4 week veg, but it will be very interesting to see how our soiler brthern do with it..