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MisterKister said:
Any idea what caused the nanners?
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I've been thinking about it, over and over. it was 55 days 12/12 I had these at 14/10 for 10 days before 12/12 too. won't be doing that schedule again either. I would have liked it to go another 10-14 days or so, lots of clear trichomes still.
I kind of think I maybe over fertilized, few weeks back when I top dressed and fed TM-7
This plant didn't really show any distress slight burnt on the leave tips, just been using plain water for a couple weeks now.
she was happy until last week and she was still doing well I just didn't want to risk pollinating the others
I misted it when I cut it down
 
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2 PBN profits I wanted to see the root growth difference.
The first pic is the the one on the right that's ahead of all the others. This one was planted in straight mix
The other I mixed 50/50 with the soil blend and coco/perilite
That one PBN Profit is the only one in straight blend, I'm wishing I put them all in it but was a little afraid it may be too strong.
All planted with a sprinkle of fungi perfect endo mix, saturated media with recharge.A189C5AF-F707-412F-9960-E6B63472B990_1_201_a.jpegF1751B19-5F6E-4BA4-9CBA-93ACE99C918B_1_201_a.jpeg272EAEA1-C298-4A38-86DA-23D9A6955339_1_201_a.jpeg
 
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LED and Calmag issues.

Why do outdoor and greenhouses use shade cloth during summers ? And yet they are lucky to get 16 hours of light at the summer solstice while we try to run 18+ for veg. I don't know of any grow lights putting out lumens/par coverage comparable to the sun, so maybe that's the difference? I've...
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Been noticing some what I thought to be calmag. Found this thread with lots of good back and forth about the VPD, I'm starting to wrap my head around it a little more, I've been a little worried about this since it is winter now and humidity is really low
the seedlings just aren't as happy as I think they should be.

Been reading a lot and the VPD thread kind of makes a lot of sense.
the T5 2 foot 4 bulb light I have been using for years now for seedlings and I've never had "nutrient" problems when they are so small
Now I'm thinking the VPD and lack of Infared light in the quantum blue light may have more of an effect then I would have thought and honestly never thought about it until now, I now understand what people have been talking about with LED.
I'm still learning and am now wondering since that thread is a couple years old now it appears to me that almost all new LED lights have the Far red and Infared diodes. I am curious if it has been found out that the red light is needed to heat the leaf surface up, it seems so.

The soil mix was my first concern, I didn't use the straight mix on all of them just one PBN Profit and it looks the best so far, the comparison is just looking sad in the 50/50 so, of course I'm thinking what a mistake mixing it with the coco/perilite. now they show signs of nutrient deficiency.
Fed a 1/4 strength gaia mania, since the coco has no nutrients, I was thinking there should be enough from the soil blend to get them going in the small pots.
The Ambient temperature is pretty low 68-70 degrees with the LED, and the humidity is low 35-40%, I put a small Ultrasonic EO diffuser in the tent to boost the humidity, 65% with it running continuously, but the temp is still too low I believe, I also added a small CFL to see if it would help with the temp.
The T5 had the tent at 75, but they do stretch for the light more then the LED all the way dimmed.
Now I might hang the T5 back in there to see if they perk up in a couple days under that light.
What I'd really like to do is be able to use the sun during the day in a good window, but window space is all used up by houseplants haha.
 
H.A.F.

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
twobitbob said:

LED and Calmag issues.

Why do outdoor and greenhouses use shade cloth during summers ? And yet they are lucky to get 16 hours of light at the summer solstice while we try to run 18+ for veg. I don't know of any grow lights putting out lumens/par coverage comparable to the sun, so maybe that's the difference? I've...
www.rollitup.org

Been noticing some what I thought to be calmag. Found this thread with lots of good back and forth about the VPD, I'm starting to wrap my head around it a little more, I've been a little worried about this since it is winter now and humidity is really low
the seedlings just aren't as happy as I think they should be.

Been reading a lot and the VPD thread kind of makes a lot of sense.
the T5 2 foot 4 bulb light I have been using for years now for seedlings and I've never had "nutrient" problems when they are so small
Now I'm thinking the VPD and lack of Infared light in the quantum blue light may have more of an effect then I would have thought and honestly never thought about it until now, I now understand what people have been talking about with LED.
I'm still learning and am now wondering since that thread is a couple years old now it appears to me that almost all new LED lights have the Far red and Infared diodes. I am curious if it has been found out that the red light is needed to heat the leaf surface up, it seems so.

The soil mix was my first concern, I didn't use the straight mix on all of them just one PBN Profit and it looks the best so far, the comparison is just looking sad in the 50/50 so, of course I'm thinking what a mistake mixing it with the coco/perilite. now they show signs of nutrient deficiency.
Fed a 1/4 strength gaia mania, since the coco has no nutrients, I was thinking there should be enough from the soil blend to get them going in the small pots.
The Ambient temperature is pretty low 68-70 degrees with the LED, and the humidity is low 35-40%, I put a small Ultrasonic EO diffuser in the tent to boost the humidity, 65% with it running continuously, but the temp is still too low I believe, I also added a small CFL to see if it would help with the temp.
The T5 had the tent at 75, but they do stretch for the light more then the LED all the way dimmed.
Now I might hang the T5 back in there to see if they perk up in a couple days under that light.
What I'd really like to do is be able to use the sun during the day in a good window, but window space is all used up by houseplants haha.
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Of all the random stuff you mentioned the thing that sticks out for me is the ambient - i.e. soil temp. I think plants at the seedling stage will grow under almost any light, including very little to no light really. But cool soil will slow everything down.
 
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H.A.F. said:
Of all the random stuff you mentioned the thing that sticks out for me is the ambient - i.e. soil temp. I think plants at the seedling stage will grow under almost any light, including very little to no light really. But cool soil will slow everything down.
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Thanks for the reply
I do have a heat mat on too, soil temp is 70-75 degrees so about 5 degrees warmer then the ambient air, which I don't like.
which I think may be the real issue and putting the T5 back in will warm the tent.

Yeah I have a couple factors, I am typing out loud trying to get it out of my head.

First, I have been mixing different blends so that's a factor, I plan to post my soil lab results, when I figure out how to upload it right on here
Second is the LED instead of the T5 I usually use, and it may be a little close 16" all the way dimmed.
Third is I may have over watered, the coco holds more moisture.
 
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The two in the front right corner was the comparison in the soil mix I had tested, and then I took that mix and blended it with coco and perilite 50/50 because I was afraid it might be too strong for seedlings.
The main reason I did this was because I mixed some soil for a friend and he was having problems with his tomato plants he transplanted in it.
So I wanted to see what tomatoes did sowed right in that mix, but the cannabis plants are doing great. I'll post some pics of those as well.
Both tomato plants were planted in the straight soil mix.
 

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This picture of the tomato plant sent me on a loop. I was thinking I really messed something up in the blend.
But the black banana chem plants are looking good
he planted the seeds in the straight mix 18CC159A-0034-404A-99EC-33A8E22B0D6E.png0E942C0F-8C09-4D71-AFDF-E66136CB8EA9.png
 
H.A.F.

H.A.F.

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If it helps, I have been useing storebought seed starter mix, but only about a shotglass full for the immediate vicinity of the seed. It's a small infusion of fresh peat and they usually have a good mix of beneficial stuff that's light enough for seedlings. The stuff from Coast of Maine is pretty reliable for content but not consistency. I sift it after I get it because that one chunk of stick always ends up in the wrong spot. The Black Gold seed mix is perfect consistnecy but not sure how reliably sourced the components are. I mix the two LOL

But a sack of each mixed only using a little at a time lasts a while. Good for your tomatoes and peppers and stuff too.
 
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H.A.F. said:
If it helps, I have been useing storebought seed starter mix, but only about a shotglass full for the immediate vicinity of the seed. It's a small infusion of fresh peat and they usually have a good mix of beneficial stuff that's light enough for seedlings. The stuff from Coast of Maine is pretty reliable for content but not consistency. I sift it after I get it because that one chunk of stick always ends up in the wrong spot. The Black Gold seed mix is perfect consistnecy but not sure how reliably sourced the components are. I mix the two LOL

But a sack of each mixed only using a little at a time lasts a while. Good for your tomatoes and peppers and stuff too.
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Thanks H.A.F. Coast of Maine I've never seen that before.

I used to use black gold for seedlings too it did work good. I bought a whole pallet of black gold Peat moss from a hardware store for a good deal at the end of the summer, and I have about 2 or so yards of 4 year old compost, a bale of rice hulls and a big bag of perilite so I've been trying to get some mixes down. I did screen it through a quarter inch hardware cloth too. Although I missed a good sized rock somehow that was in the PBN Profit that didn't pop up, whoops.

This last summer I started around 50 tomatoes and 30 pepper plants in some mix I blended they all took off wonderfully but they were in a good window with supplement light at night.
I also planted six cement shoes in the same mix and none of them popped up, I did not pasteurize that blend.
When I dug up the cannabis seeds I found white pot worms in the seed shell they ate the small seedling.

The Williams wonder and Romulan seeds I planted in the same stuff but I pasteurized it and they popped fine, I also used it for the clones of the Unicorn shoes from outside.
 
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