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JohnFonda

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Wrong again - no matter how many big words you try and use.

Our capitalism is based on those companies. And if you think they just "amass wealth" you are a complete dumb ass. They invest in more company. That "more company" means more production - more goods (Gross National Product) - and more jobs.

When other countries buy our stuff we get money from the "global community"
Assets are not a form of wealth ? Dollars are not a resource ? The dollar is literally a universal resource. Meaning it translates its value directly into value of goods its traded for. Bartering was too complex dealing with multiple inputs. Same with some modern crypto. They are universal currencies that can translate the value between currency itself. The American dream lol.... Reach the top..... what exactly is the top? Living much akin to a Duke or Lord and claiming taxes are theft. It doesn't matter if the whole world is employed if everyone is doing fuckall. The whole point of modernization is to reduce the workload and limit suffering. Like I said though those damn robots took my job. I'm probably just angry cause my kids wont stop crying they dont have food. I lost in the winners game of capitalism. Should have made a pet rock....
 

treefarmercharlie

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Obama care did fix problems that were rampant in healthcare. Mainly denied coverage. You have a daughter that has a disease that cost 8 grand a month. Then every insurance company in America turns their back on you and says we wont take that loss. Your options are pay out of pocket selling your house car and eventually your asshole and she still falls apart right in front of you. You would feel a bit different. So what exactly do you want? No help for anyone. Pure win or lose ? If a baby comes out non perfect we just kill it spartan style so it doesn't drag the rest of us down. You ever consider that the system is the problem itself as its lacking any incentive or humanity. Let me ask you one thing. Do you believe this current model is the answer ? That we can continue this way are worldwide without issue for future generations.
I'm not sure what you meant with the last question, but our health care system was messed up before Obama Care. The problem with Obama Care was it only helped the poor, but it caused far more issues for everybody else. When it first went into effect my wife was on a lot of medications and we could no longer afford those medications. Even with the $500/month I was putting into the HSA at the time only covered half her medications and then it cost us another $300/month on top of that due to the high deductibles. The company I work for is small, so we could no longer afford quality coverage, and if we went on our own, the coverage was through the roof to the point where it would've cost me just as much as I was shellin gout in cash for deductibles with my HSA plant. That's when I stopped going to private doctors and started going to the VA for all my healthcare. The system has been broken for year and my opinion, and those of most of the people I know, is that Obama Care made quality health insurance non-existant to the lower-middle to middle class. People on welfare get better health coverage than the working class and that should not be the case. I believe they deserve health care, but so does the working class.
 
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I'm not sure what you meant with the last question, but our health care system was messed up before Obama Care. The problem with Obama Care was it only helped the poor, but it caused far more issues for everybody else. When it first went into effect my wife was on a lot of medications and we could no longer afford those medications. Even with the $500/month I was putting into the HSA at the time only covered half her medications and then it cost us another $300/month on top of that due to the high deductibles. The company I work for is small, so we could no longer afford quality coverage, and if we went on our own, the coverage was through the roof to the point where it would've cost me just as much as I was shellin gout in cash for deductibles with my HSA plant. That's when I stopped going to private doctors and started going to the VA for all my healthcare. The system has been broken for year and my opinion, and those of most of the people I know, is that Obama Care made quality health insurance non-existant to the lower-middle to middle class. People on welfare get better health coverage than the working class and that should not be the case. I believe they deserve health care, but so does the working class.
They have been "experimenting" on the poor for years and years. This just made it easier, plus grab those "middle class" heathens now that the jobs are going away to the "roboticization" of the planet. We all are gonna have to be "re-educated" and trained. Sad fucking world we are living in now. I miss the 70's and 80's when life was great.
 

treefarmercharlie

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They have been "experimenting" on the poor for years and years. This just made it easier, plus grab those "middle class" heathens now that the jobs are going away to the "roboticization" of the planet. We all are gonna have to be "re-educated" and trained. Sad fucking world we are living in now. I miss the 70's and 80's when life was great.
I'm too young to remember the '70s but the '80's were amazing and I miss that way of life. Shit started going down hill in the mid-late '90s, IMHO.
 

treefarmercharlie

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Do you think every hotel, resort, golf course, etc. runs itself? Ever watch The Apprentice? Rich conservatives are job creators
Young people who are all for socialism just don't get that. I just remembered another client I can mention by name. Jim Davis, owner of New Balance. When I worked on his place he had an ungodly monthly budget to pay the contractors working on his property. IIRC it was somewhere around $1M or more.
 

treefarmercharlie

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Capitalists create tons of jobs, infrastructure, city’s... Then they leave when the left moves in. Hollywood is a good example. NY is another..
People are starting to move out of CA now, too, due to all the BS this pandemic started. They can't work, but still have to pay insane taxes, and they've finally had enough. Joe Rogan is planning on moving out and a bunch of comedian friends of his have already pulled the trigger because they can't work in LA until further notice.
 

Punisher84

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People are starting to move out of CA now, too, due to all the BS this pandemic started. They can't work, but still have to pay insane taxes, and they've finally had enough. Joe Rogan is planning on moving out and a bunch of comedian friends of his have already pulled the trigger because they can't work in LA until further notice.
My dad has a classmate from school who moved from San Fran to Salt Lake City I believe. He calls it escape. He had some sort of successful business in CA. Been posting price comparisons on Facebook. Last was his vehicle registration which was 1/3 of what it was in CA. So funny most his friends in CA hate him now cause he left.

He will be one of many. Sad really because as a state CA could sustain itself.
 

treefarmercharlie

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I’ve listened to both of those. They will have so many haters if they leave.
They won't give two shits about the haters. Joe already takes a ton of shit from people for loving to talk about DMT but he doesn't let any of that shit get to him. He tells celebrities all the time to stop reading what people write about them, or tweet at them, because the assholes just never go away and you can't let miserable people run your life. Misery loves company.
 
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