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JohnFonda

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Basis does not equal reality. If it would work here then why do you think so many Americans are against it?
For 1 I never said I supported socialism. I just asked for an example of it actually existing. Then came the freakouts about the ussr everyone wearing the same color shirt propaganda bla bla etc. 2 the American population is radicalized and not very educated. 3 the people who hold actual power and large wealth would lose that power by giving the population the power of decision. I could go on but I dont think my point will ever be made. I'll just go protest somewhere cause I lost my job to a robot and cant feed my family.
 

treefarmercharlie

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For 1 I never said I supported socialism. I just asked for an example of it actually existing. Then came the freakouts about the ussr everyone wearing the same color shirt propaganda bla bla etc. 2 the American population is radicalized and not very educated. 3 the people who hold actual power and large wealth would lose that power by giving the population the power of decision. I could go on but I dont think my point will ever be made. I'll just go protest somewhere cause I lost my job to a robot and cant feed my family.
I never said you supported it, either, I said your fairy tale version wouldn’t work here. Look, man, I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again. I work in the custom integration and automation industry for the residential market and I have worked in the homes of some of the wealthiest and extremely powerful people from both the left and the right. The powerful people on the left treat the employees in their homes like garbage and all they care about is their selves and their money. The ones on the right, for the most part, threat the employees in their homes very well and sometimes like family. I’ve worked directly with Lou Gerstner and sat down and had bourbon while he told me why the company I worked for failed, and how he saw it coming before it happened. He gave me tips on finding new work and gave me his personal cell number in case I had trouble finding a new job. I’ve never met a wealthy person on the left who did that. In fact, when the company failed, one of the far left assholes, who got left hanging, threatened to sue some individual employees (me included) because we wouldn’t pull the equipment he put 50% down on that was sitting in the warehouse, because the banks seized everything and we weren’t legally permitted to. Later he showed up at my old co-workers front door and demanded he finish the job for free, or he would bury him in court fees. The powerful people on the left, who push the socialist agenda, are far more evil than you realize. I wish I could name some of the wealthy people on the left I’ve worked for, but we always have to sign NDAs, and the only reason I can mention Lou (and Roger Penske) is because that company is long gone and it was close to 15 years ago.
 

JohnFonda

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I never said you supported it, either, I said your fairy tale version wouldn’t work here. Look, man, I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again. I work in the custom integration and automation industry for the residential market and I have worked in the homes of some of the wealthiest and extremely powerful people from both the left and the right. The powerful people on the left treat the employees in their homes like garbage and all they care about is their selves and their money. The ones on the right, for the most part, threat the employees in their homes very well and sometimes like family. I’ve worked directly with Lou Gerstner and sat down and had bourbon while he told me why the company I worked for failed, and how he saw it coming before it happened. He gave me tips on finding new work and gave me his personal cell number in case I had trouble finding a new job. I’ve never met a wealthy person on the left who did that. In fact, when the company failed, one of the far left assholes, who got left hanging, threatened to sue some individual employees (me included) because we wouldn’t pull the equipment he put 50% down on that was sitting in the warehouse, because the banks seized everything and we weren’t legally permitted to. Later he showed up at my old co-workers front door and demanded he finish the job for free, or he would bury him in court fees. The powerful people on the left, who push the socialist agenda, are far more evil than you realize. I wish I could name some of the wealthy people on the left I’ve worked for, but we always have to sign NDAs, and the only reason I can mention Lou (and Roger Penske) is because that company is long gone and it was close to 15 years ago.
It's not a socialist agenda and everything else you said is irrelevant to anything I've said though . It's just people just saying what others want to hear to further their own selfish agenda. Politics. It's all about rubbing elbows and circlejerks. Whether they smile or not when they do it I guarantee left or right theyll fuck you square in the middle of your cheeks at the end of the day. You said in a socialist society the president would dictate the means of production and distrubtion..... where do you go from there in that discussion? It's all good man at the end of the day nothings gonna change anyway. Not for the better. Not cause it cant. Not cause we arent capable as a species. It just wont be allowed. When you can sink your head around that everything else is just comedy.
 

JohnFonda

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As a reminder - YOU POSTED THIS 👆
I did and you indirectly replied Nazi Germany. I mean I wasnt there but I dont think the the majority of the public had very much decision in anything that happened there let alone the management of resources.
 

H.A.F.

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I did and you indirectly replied Nazi Germany. I mean I wasnt there but I dont think the the majority of the public had very much decision in anything that happened there let alone the management of resources.
Learn history then, because what you think is so far off base as to be completely inaccurate. Bullet points:

Germany was punished after WWI
Could not pay the debts placed on them by the world, they never recovered, and then the depression hit.
A liberal artist that was a ditch soldier in WWI convinced the majority of the people in Germany to elect him and use his socialism to fix everything.
He used his Brown Shirts (think BLM and ANTIFA) to harass and kill members of the other parties.
When elected he did NAZI shit. All in the name of socialism
 

treefarmercharlie

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It's not a socialist agenda and everything else you said is irrelevant to anything I've said though . It's just people just saying what others want to hear to further their own selfish agenda. Politics. It's all about rubbing elbows and circlejerks. Whether they smile or not when they do it I guarantee left or right theyll fuck you square in the middle of your cheeks at the end of the day. You said in a socialist society the president would dictate the means of production and distrubtion..... where do you go from there in that discussion? It's all good man at the end of the day nothings gonna change anyway. Not for the better. Not cause it cant. Not cause we arent capable as a species. It just wont be allowed. When you can sink your head around that everything else is just comedy.
Everything I wrote is very relevant to what you said. It’s called having actual human contact and personal experiences with the type of people who are pulling the strings.

How old are you? You seem very young and naive about what can happen with your freedom in this country, and I mean that sincerely and not as an insult. Our freedom and independence have been being slowly picked apart for years. One of the biggest hits to that was Obama care, but the left won’t be happy until they take as much freedom and independence away from us as they can. When you are being told that have to have health insurance, or else you have to pay a fine, then I hate to break it to you but you no longer live in “the land of the free”. All Obama care did was made the cost of health insurance skyrocket while, at the same time, reducing the actual benefits you get while raising your copayment. And for what? So the poor can get free and better coverage than those who actually pay for it? My sister in law, who has been living in my house free of charge for the last 5 years, has better health insurance than her sister and I do because she finally figured out that she could quit her full time job and work the fucking system. Think about that for a minute. People get better health insurance for free, or sometimes for next to free, if they just quit working and become a fucking leech to society. And you think that type of socialist society could work? And you call us uneducated? :ROFLMAO: 😂🤣
 
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