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Highland Rogue
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Oh, I know Canada has its fair share of rednecks, too! Anyone who thinks Canada is full of people who love the current system over there has simply either never been to Canada or has only gone to the larger cities.
gwheels
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Prince Harry came up here to escape that stupid life...i said to my wife he should run a pot company.
He could be the prince of pot...the king of weed....and you know what....siri is listening because he did that very thing.
This doobs for you Prince Harry...you are the only royal i like!!! Enjoy the most FREE country in the WORLD and smoke some fine herb...damned pool is shocking right now or the anthem would be blasting and i would be swimming.
He could be the prince of pot...the king of weed....and you know what....siri is listening because he did that very thing.
This doobs for you Prince Harry...you are the only royal i like!!! Enjoy the most FREE country in the WORLD and smoke some fine herb...damned pool is shocking right now or the anthem would be blasting and i would be swimming.
Whip Eurass
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You've been singing this tune for awhile. It's somewhat off key, even though you're not wrong about the idiocy of many of the programs.
In a prosperous and non-failed country, certain things must exist, and must be paid for. Giving individuals the choice to opt out, means most would, which means those certain things would not exist, and the country fails. It's not that hard to grok.
However, individuals do have the choice to not participate. It's known as repatriating.
Highland Rogue
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People should pay for the things they agree to buy. Making people pay for things they don't use or would prefer to acquire other ways or not all means freedom won't exist.
And then....the country fails. It's not that hard to grok.
Whip Eurass
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I grok ! You're a Kris Kristofferson follower !
"Freedom ain't nothing if it ain't free."
Cool ! Let me toss a little
"All ya need is love, love, love is all ya need." [ and a good flush of the toilet wouldn't hurt, but the neighbors won't pay ]
hhibrownsbacker
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Id say the counrty would fail if it ever follows your system. It simply wont work. Nothing is perfect. Nothing is for free. Everytime somebody decided to bow out of a act, someone else will have to pick up the slack. By your theory someone can bow out of road repair because they dont want to pay for it for no reason other than they would rather spend their money on opiates. What kind of freedom exists when one person can effect the cost and inconvience of others who are going to have to pay the difference. Why dont you explain who would be right, wrong, who should be forced to pay the difference. Should they even be allowed to use any road while refusing to help maintain it? And thats just one out of thousands of issues that would exist. Apply your theory to garbage pickup, school systems, power, police, military, and on and on and on. I'll tell you what, take garbage disposal (because the trash needs taken out) and insert me as the one who wont pay for it and I let it pile up at the end of your driveway. Heres my answer, FU Im a free man, I dont care if it stinks inside your house when the wind is blowing that way. What do you do???
Whip Eurass
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I typed an almost identical post. Then....the Kristofferson /Lennon /toilet thing hit me between Big Bananas tokes.
I've got $5.00 that he says he may not like the way your freedom smells, but he respects your display of true freedom.
hhibrownsbacker
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I dont care what he thinks, I want to know what he would do.
Highland Rogue
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"It will never work" Compared to what then becomes the question. How satisfied are you with an oppressive government and what do you consider the measure of something that works? If it negates self determination, I'd say it's not working.
Of course self determination, is literally self determination, not a right to determine what others do with their selves.
You may have misunderstood my position. By '"my theory" I don't have the right to make another persons choices for them about the other persons property or body. Which part of that do you find disagreeable?
I don't think everything should be "free" either. Value is subjective. So if willing people want to make trades, that's their business. If one party isn't willing to trade, I think it's best to leave them alone. If one party isn't willing to pay for something, they don't get any, unless the owner wants to gift them. Again, not my property, so not my business.
People should be free to make their choices, not to make others choices though. Are you against making your own choices ?
Road repairs should be paid for by the owner(s) of a given road. I imagine, if I owned a road, I'd build in some kind of fee structure for others to pay if they wanted to use the road. If they spend all their money on opiates and don't want to pay to use the road, that's their choice right?
Highland Rogue
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I would respect your right to self determine your own body and your own property.
Isn't that the basis of a peaceful and responsible society ?
If it isn't what do you think is ?
Highland Rogue
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Concerning force.
The person who uses offensive force, (initiates aggression) is the person who is wrong.
The person who uses defensive force and / or doesn't use offensive force is usually the person who is right.
As far as your question, "Who should be forced to pay the difference" ? That depends. If I have an idea but I need more people to buy into my idea, should I force you to buy my product, so I'm not forced to pay the difference, even if you want nothing to do with my idea or service etc?
hhibrownsbacker
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No No No, don't change the subject, this is about trash removal. The city provides for trash pickup thru our tax dollars which I refuse to pay for because don't want it and determined its in my best interest to let it rot. The stink don't bother me. The stink is starting to infiltrate your home. What do you do?
Whip Eurass
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Easy money.
Highland Rogue
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Assuming I know it's your trash and polite attempts to reason with you have failed, I use a drone with a flame thrower and incinerate the garbage. If you happen to burn up too, I deem you as "collateral damage" and await my Nobel Peace Prize nomination.
Speaking of collateral damage, how do you make sure your taxes aren't paying to kill innocent women and children somewhere ?
Highland Rogue
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I'll mail you a bill for my commission.
hhibrownsbacker
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So all your theories on this freedom to make your own decisions are basically GARBAGE. Thanks!!!!!!! Now as far as my tax dollars going to pay for the killing of innocent women and children, there's not much difference between that and burning up some old man standing next to his garbage pile.
Highland Rogue
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Actually there is a difference.
Your tax money is taken from you and IS used to "collateral damage" all kinds of innocent people. See? Your system "won't work". Your tax money is also used to buy drug sniffing dogs, and lots of other things you wish it didn't.
I've never used a flame thrower on an old man standing next to garbage. Although if you were befouling somebody else property, you have ceased to control your OWN property and began to try to control others property haven't you ?
Where would you get the right to force others to pay for an idea you have but others aren't interested in your idea ?
Whip Eurass
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That presumes that enough people have opted in to have a working postal system. It'll have to be UPS or Fed-Ex, and if they're not competing with the USPS, it'll cost you twice the $5.00 in shipping. So triple thanks !I'll mail you a bill for my commission.
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