Pro's not so pro grow.

[ttystikk]

Thanks man.

Here they are after their first night of 12 hours. Ph=6.12, ppm=630, ppfd=165, lux=11,000, temp=72, humidity=41

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I would personally run it warmer for faster growth but I'm not quibbling; it looks like everyone is doing very well!

 

[Streetpro09]

I would personally run it warmer for faster growth but I'm not quibbling; it looks like everyone is doing very well!

Yeah, I'm not thrilled about having to run a space heater in there cause it's winter here. Which causes minimal temp variations from day to night. Maybe I'll bump it up over 75? Probably won't be thrilled with the electric bill this month anyway. For the first time in years, last month was under $200.

 

[ttystikk]

Yeah, I'm not thrilled about having to run a space heater in there cause it's winter here. Which causes minimal temp variations from day to night. Maybe I'll bump it up over 75? Probably won't be thrilled with the electric bill this month anyway. For the first time in years, last month was under $200.

Cheap power bills are a reminder that I'm not doing what I really want to be doing lol

Is there a way to pump heat in from a different part of the house? It depends on whether you're on a gas forced air furnace or a boiler... and of course whether you own or rent lol

 

[Streetpro09]

Cheap power bills are a reminder that I'm not doing what I really want to be doing lol

Is there a way to pump heat in from a different part of the house? It depends on whether you're on a gas forced air furnace or a boiler... and of course whether you own or rent lol

Oh i could rig something up for max yields but those days are passed. Rec has been legal here in this state for several years. Can buy ounces for less than $100, i hear. I still have ounces left from this spring when i shut down for the summer. All i really need to get is about a pound from this run to last till next year. Plus I'll have a second run after this one for backup. Have never done the "one run for a year" thing. Iirr, I've pulled a pound from this setup without too much trouble. It's right about 15-16 sqft.

 

[1oldfart]

Yeah, I'm not thrilled about having to run a space heater in there cause it's winter here. Which causes minimal temp variations from day to night. Maybe I'll bump it up over 75? Probably won't be thrilled with the electric bill this month anyway. For the first time in years, last month was under $200.

that's cheep!

 

[Streetpro09]

that's cheep!

For sure! It's been known to be over 500 in the past.

 

[ttystikk]

For sure! It's been known to be over 500 in the past.

I think the biggest power bill I ever paid at home was about $3800.

 

[Streetpro09]

I think the biggest power bill I ever paid at home was about $3800.

I imagine with a couple/several 1000w hps and mh you'd have to run alot more ac? I only had a couple runs with 600 hps and mh before upgrading to leds. I assume yours was years ago? Can only imagine what 3800 in power would be now that the dollar has lost more value.

 

[ttystikk]

I imagine with a couple/several 1000w hps and mh you'd have to run alot more ac? I only had a couple runs with 600 hps and mh before upgrading to leds. I assume yours was years ago? Can only imagine what 3800 in power would be now that the dollar has lost more value.

I was running over 30 HID lights, most of which were 1000W on magnetic ballasts. Instead of air conditioning, I was using water chilling and it was highly effective and efficient.

Today we have LED and I'm about to kick the water cooling thing up a notch; think of it as combatting the rising price of power!

 

[ttystikk]

BL, or Before LED, I ran a two bulb 4' T12 shop light over the clones and rooted cuttings, 80W.

Over the 3x3' flood table I used as a nursery, I ran either 2' T8 x 6 bulbs for 120W or a 400W HPS. I also had this crazy fixture I rigged up for a bunch of screw in CFL bulbs lol

Over the two longer flood tables, I had 600W HPS.

That's all just for the nursery area.

In the big veg, I ran either 3 x 600W HPS or 3 x 315W CMH and that covered two stages.

For the pre bloom stage I had 4 x 315W CMH and a '860' CDM (same tech as CMH, just bigger) running at 1000W.

That was the pre bloom room.

All the above fed one of 5 bloom spots, each of which had 5 x '860' CDM, again running at 1000W. That's 25 lamps in bloom, on a staggered schedule.

Every thousand Watt lamp had a magnetic ballast, pulling maybe 150W. The 315W CMH had more efficient digital square wave ballasts that didn't pull very many Watts. These were the only lights that were more than 30% efficient. Fluorescent lamps are about 30% efficient as well.

At first, I had a couple of 2 Ton chillers that pulled 2000W. They were converted window units. They ran constantly. Then I upgraded to a 5 Ton chiller and oddly enough it only ran about 1/4 or at most 1/3 of the time.

Yeah, it was a lot of power. The electric oven and hot tub also added a bit too!

The modern era of LED has saved a lot of power but I don't run an op like that anymore, either.

 

[ttystikk]

@Streetpro09 the LED lights I installed did not reduce the electrical consumption; I took the improved efficiency as additional light instead. Only the nursery saw a substantial reduction in wattage used, from about 1800W to about 1100W.

 

[1oldfart]

For sure! It's been known to be over 500 in the past.

sounds like mine from time to time!

 

[1oldfart]

I think the biggest power bill I ever paid at home was about $3800.

that is out of hand unless you are working from home ,i know my welder , air compressor valve grinder,valve guide and seat machine, run it up fast!

 

[ttystikk]

that is out of hand unless you are working from home ,i know my welder , air compressor valve grinder,valve guide and seat machine, run it up fast!

I was working from home; I was running a grow operation and indoor cultivation lab! "Self funded" lol

 

[1oldfart]

I was working from home; I was running a grow operation and indoor cultivation lab! "Self funded" lol

cool deal!

 

[1oldfart]

lllllll

BL, or Before LED, I ran a two bulb 4' T12 shop light over the clones and rooted cuttings, 80W.

Over the 3x3' flood table I used as a nursery, I ran either 2' T8 x 6 bulbs for 120W or a 400W HPS. I also had this crazy fixture I rigged up for a bunch of screw in CFL bulbs lol

Over the two longer flood tables, I had 600W HPS.

That's all just for the nursery area.

In the big veg, I ran either 3 x 600W HPS or 3 x 315W CMH and that covered two stages.

For the pre bloom stage I had 4 x 315W CMH and a '860' CDM (same tech as CMH, just bigger) running at 1000W.

That was the pre bloom room.

All the above fed one of 5 bloom spots, each of which had 5 x '860' CDM, again running at 1000W. That's 25 lamps in bloom, on a staggered schedule.

Every thousand Watt lamp had a magnetic ballast, pulling maybe 150W. The 315W CMH had more efficient digital square wave ballasts that didn't pull very many Watts. These were the only lights that were more than 30% efficient. Fluorescent lamps are about 30% efficient as well.

At first, I had a couple of 2 Ton chillers that pulled 2000W. They were converted window units. They ran constantly. Then I upgraded to a 5 Ton chiller and oddly enough it only ran about 1/4 or at most 1/3 of the time.

Yeah, it was a lot of power. The electric oven and hot tub also added a bit too!

The modern era of LED has saved a lot of power but I don't run an op like that anymore, either.
[/QUOTEi dont have to run em all the time being as i just supply the misses 1oldfart and me!

 

[ttystikk]

cool deal!

The lab did do what I still think is some important work.

And the Lab Shall Rise Again!