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stiickygreen

Passing to the Left
Staff member
That would be nice but I don't see them relaxing laws on sales/allowing some sort of free-for-all/easy money making scheme even if they "make it legal". They want their TAX/FEE money...just like any other "gubmint" agency. Hunting...fishin'.....driving...opening a biz....getting your SS check....all regulated and controlled with a hand out for $$$$.... so to think otherwise about something happening on the weed front that will open the door fully for folks to grow/sell/not pay the powers-that-be their due ain't gonna happen and is idealistic and completely unrealistic.
 

H.A.F.

"Happy Wanderer"
That would be nice but I don't see them relaxing laws on sales/allowing some sort of free-for-all/easy money making scheme even if they "make it legal". They want their TAX/FEE money...just like any other "gubmint" agency. Hunting...fishin'.....driving...opening a biz....getting your SS check....all regulated and controlled with a hand out for $$$$.... so to think otherwise about something happening on the weed front that will open the door fully for folks to grow/sell/not pay the powers-that-be their due ain't gonna happen and is idealistic and completely unrealistic.
If you open a business it would be no different from any other business at that point. You sell stuff, hire employees, pay your taxes, etc. Nothing has to be weed-specific except any safety regulations pertaining to safe dosage WARNINGS, not limitations. The packaging and labeling would be no different from any tobacco product. Or food product for edibles.
 

H.A.F.

"Happy Wanderer"
And right now on Book-face there are local vendors pushing their homemade or re-sale products and paying no taxes. There's no outrage. There shouldn't be. Taxation is theft - teach your children.
 

H.A.F.

"Happy Wanderer"
Taxation would be your fee to play within the system, and gain the benefits thereof - it should not be a criminal offense not to if you operate outside the system. Same for bean sales now.
 

stiickygreen

Passing to the Left
Staff member
As i said earlier...I wish it was that lax here. It isn't....and it never has been. Maybe your state will play that game but so far i know of no state that allows open drug dealing and skipping out on tax liabilities/etc. That's that "illegal" (pays well) stuff...LOL. Been there...did that. If you know of such a set up please post it up. I've yet to see any laws passed that don't have TAXES in place as the forefront goal in the reasoning to pass such laws in the first place. Most states are only giving the nod >because of tax revenue< that adds up to millions upon millions of dollars. They don't sell liquor/allow liquor store owners to sell without regulation and skip tax liabilites on thise sales...so thinking weed will be different is simply uninformed and idealistic.
 

H.A.F.

"Happy Wanderer"
Maybe your state will play that game but so far i know of no state that allows open drug dealing and skipping out on tax liabilities/etc.
But if it is decriminalized it is not "drug dealin". Dude with a hotdog cart in NYC pays taxes. lady selling homemade Rona masks on Bookface doesn't pay taxes on that income - her home is not being raided.
 

H.A.F.

"Happy Wanderer"
But the hot dog cart guy knows he wouldn't sell as many hotdogs on Bookface - or in his front yard - so he enters the system.
 

Oreguhnism

Master Grower
Schedule 2 could be more restrictive than one. Here in Oregon it was placed in the states 3, or 4 schedule. But descheduling should be a mandatory part of decriminilization. But this also interferes with the tax argument, so probably wont be allowed.

Start throwing your seeds everywhere, lets really turn this motherfucker into the true essence of a weed. Ubiquitous.
 
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stiickygreen

Passing to the Left
Staff member
I agree @Oreguhnism.... It needs taken off the schedule....not moved down to cause more restrictions/problems.

Dude..I get it....but yer still WAYYYY iidealistist on this one. It would be GREAT if weed wasn't illegal...like in the old days when it was in most every medical concontion taken for >whatever ails ya"..... but it isn't...and it will never be a free-for-all....at least in MOST states (again...please show WHERE this is happening other than in yer mind)....can't say what they all will do...but so far....NOBODY is selling openly/allowing individuals to sling freely while dodging taxes..... LEGALLY. Why? Becsuse...like alcohol...I do believe it may be a "drug" in the eyes of the "gubmint". It isn't "hot dogs" and that is THE difference. you can buy a license to sell hot dogs freely. You cannot do the same thing in most states with cannabis. My state, for one...isn't issuing anymore licenses and they were never a Joe Blow gonna "just waltz in and get one" kinda scenario in the first place. Unlike hot dog sales...weed licenses are limited here. They didn't want a drug dealer turned hot dog seller on every corner.....and they stated that right up front. We're just now starting to see "coffeeshop" type establishments.....but I;m not sure how it's working/if they are connected to dispensary ownership or what....cus an individual can't just buy an amount of weed and resell it ("dispense"...as the law says)....in a retail setting. They'd have to be licensed as a dispensary or a newly designated entity. Only licensed operators of these shops can sell weed.

I hope someone somewhere gets that kind nod....but it sure isn't that way in the OP's state...which was where this started....or my state...or any other state playing the legal card so far. It's that "have yer cake and eat it too" thing that they won;t let happen...cus it defeats THE purpose weed is being legalized...and that is for TAX REVENUES....not cus they like us or weed. Heehee...in some counties here in CO they have nixed it ALL. No dispensaries allowed...no grows allowed...no nothing allowed... cus the law allows them to opt out.....even if the folks in town wanna buy a bud er two and VOTED for legal weed. THAT is how much control is coming for most folks in the legal states. Again...show where free sales w/o tax liability is happening currently....inside ANY state law. Until then, such a vision is moot/a pie in the sky/thoughts from a small time drug dealer hoping to be legitimaized... not gonna happen.

Remember..no politics (ongoing, baseless talking points..,.LOL) are allowed here anymore. You'll get knacked bigly if you start that shit up again.
 
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Oreguhnism

Master Grower
Schedule 2 could be more restrictive than one. Here in Oregon it was placed in the states 3, or 4 schedule. But descheduling should be a mandatory part of decriminilization. But this also interferes with the tax argument, so probably wont be allowed.

Start throwing your seeds everywhere, lets really turn this motherfucker into the true essence of a weed. Ubiquitous.
Free the weed and fuck politicians. All of them.
 
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