2021 Mystery Pack Competition

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I'm not getting anything but fans from them. As long as they don't lose any quality on those by selling other stuff I don't really care that much.

It's a wide-open market, and I would like to see someone limit their inventory to locally made products. Canadian companies selling to the Canucks , Made in the USA down here, and Chinese crap gathering rust and dust at the border.
 

treefarmercharlie

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I'm not getting anything but fans from them. As long as they don't lose any quality on those by selling other stuff I don't really care that much.

It's a wide-open market, and I would like to see someone limit their inventory to locally made products. Canadian companies selling to the Canucks , Made in the USA down here, and Chinese crap gathering rust and dust at the border.
American made controllers are pretty much non-existent. I can't think of one US company who manufactures any type of controller that would handle the control of lights, heat, and/or humidity.
 

treefarmercharlie

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I'm not saying they exist - but that just means it is a definite business opportunity.
The biggest hurdle is the inability to produce one in the US that is anywhere near the price point of what is offered by companies who have them produced in China. It's been the whole "If you can't beat 'em join 'em" thing for a very long time. The control systems I program are made in the US, their cheapest control processor is $1,000, and that comes with nothing loaded onto it. It's just an empty processor waiting to be told what to do and having someone program the logic behind everything isn't cheap, either. The price of the AC Infinity controllers is extremely low and I can't think of how anyone could come even close to competeing with those prices without outsourcing to China or another country with cheap labor. China has gotten us so used to inexpensive stuff that they really do have us by the balls.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
The biggest hurdle is the inability to produce one in the US that is anywhere near the price point of what is offered by companies who have them produced in China. It's been the whole "If you can't beat 'em join 'em" thing for a very long time. The control systems I program are made in the US, their cheapest control processor is $1,000, and that comes with nothing loaded onto it. It's just an empty processor waiting to be told what to do and having someone program the logic behind everything isn't cheap, either. The price of the AC Infinity controllers is extremely low and I can't think of how anyone could come even close to competeing with those prices without outsourcing to China or another country with cheap labor. China has gotten us so used to inexpensive stuff that they really do have us by the balls.
Unions help raise the wages and benefits of assembly-line monkeys to the point where the jobs evaporated - because kids in China are still going to be making stuff for the right to eat dinner - but the union bosses still have jobs... :unsure:
 

GrowsomethingBill

Dirt Track Maniac 🏆 🏁
I dropped all the contest beans knowing I might need to cull girls just because they are testers. Might want to get some info to @J.James on the culled ones too if there's anything of note.
Mostly issues that accumulated when I had Covid. They just stayed really small and were showing multiple signs of deficiencies. Always droopy never really bounced back after I had Covid. I think it’s just a combo of my environment and the neglect they had endured during Covid. Everyone else’s looked good. Probably just a me thing ya know.
 

F series

Insanely Active Member

Opie1

Master Grower
23 Players, the ones with an x next to the screen name have posted pics in the last 3 weeks.
I may have missed some players that have posted.

This was my original list of 33 players that germinated seeds.

TreeFarmerCharlie x

Zaphod420 x

idolized x

Mr. Greenz

H.A.F. x

Nobighurry x

TerpyTyrone x

Kushash x

Tango.hotel.charlie x

Dalton x

GrowernotAshower

Old ST1R x

GrowsomethingBill x

Protato

Ohio.george x

DesertPlants

Bustenbeans x

FluffySquish x

printer x

wierdly x

Butlers ridge

awcoste x

F series x

Heisenbeans x

Slowdrawl x

Opie1

High kev Needed to bow out Monday.

Turd Ferguson x

Streetpro09 x

Rocman91

lakegrow x
Scratch my name off, between the bat flu and the weather I have nothing left. I guess I can clean everything real good and get ready for spring. I did have a few mother plants survive so it wasn’t a complete loss.
 

oldsilvertip

Really Active Member
Then I'd treat it like it's the best smoke you ever had and that's the last bean on earth - until you find out different :cool:
i've gotten some really great smoke from ,slightly non-tipacal plants
After further review - I think more people in this forum stay in their lanes grow-wise. For example - I don't have anything to say if people have hydro questions, but I also won't jump in and try and preach about soil and start a fight and clog the thread - and confuse the fuck out of the newb asking the question. That is the general attitude here.
i tend to stick with soil, all i know much about still gathering additaves for the upcoming spring .
But that also gives the OP another person to ask.
HAF you do know i tend to watch you close ,awsome hobby work too , by the looks of your grow .
 

oldsilvertip

Really Active Member
You'd be surprised by how many of these vendors will send you free equipment if you just mention them and show their shit in your tent. AC Infinity does it with a ton of beginner growers and I honestly don't get it. I've noticed Air Bottom Bags has been sending a lot of people their bags for free lately to promote them. I contacted them about alpha/beta testing their new controllers and offered to give them a lot of feedback and explained that I've been in the automation and integration industry for over 20 years. They had no interest unless I was active on social media platforms, had a lot of followers, and was an "influencer".
dont need influencers just descent equip. a fair price. social media? this is all i keep track of ,well current cannabis leg.
 

wierdly

Fungas Gnat
Which one got the purps? this that or the other? I Know its been said already but I forget a lot of stuff. I want to make sure I keep around the Purps for the photos. Trying to figure out if I should cull down to six plants in my Living soil pots which are ready to go and only need water every three days. If I decide to keep all 11 and let them stay in the small pots , I will have to water everyday and go the Dyna Grow way.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Which one got the purps? this that or the other? I Know its been said already but I forget a lot of stuff. I want to make sure I keep around the Purps for the photos. Trying to figure out if I should cull down to six plants in my Living soil pots which are ready to go and only need water every three days. If I decide to keep all 11 and let them stay in the small pots , I will have to water everyday and go the Dyna Grow way.
That One has the purple in some.
 
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