#Heisenbeans Genetics

JohnFonda

Tegrity Greenthumb
Nice, that's exactly what I like to hear. I'm planning on doing 5 plants in a 5x5x6 tent grown in octopots LST'ed to the max, probably switch when they're around 18" and a nice size little bush. For lighting I'm still kinda on the fence. Still don't know if I'm gonna splurge on 4k veg boards AND 3000k bloom boards or just use my t5's for veg. I use to use a combo of HPS and MH for bloom and straight MH on veg so HID is what I'm used to. Because of that I thought about CMH for a long while but from all I've seen LED has finally caught up with HID so I figured why go with a dying, hotter tech since summer is right around the corner. If anybody has any insight on lighting I'm open to suggestions. Each board I'm gonna get is 240w so I figured I'd run 4 to 5 in there with the possibility of having to turn them down a bit if it's too much light already factored into the equation. I want even light all over the canopy otherwise what's the point of LED in the first place IMO.

Just wanna add that this place is really great and I'm glad I found it. There's a lot better atmosphere here than Trollitup; don't know what happened to that place but it seems like it's filled with a bunch of know it all internet heads now with nothing but forum knowledge and no real experience, smdh.
3500k qb132s are pretty nice. You can build it off 2 drivers. Use half for veg and turn on the rest for flower. Lots of spread diodes give a pretty good spread of the light
 

Heathenraider

Heathen Basterd
Do u like taking off the big fans while in flower? Thats something ive practiced for years now


I have 1 pack of wedding pie. Would like to get a S1 of Topanga canyon, sundae driver and ghost OG. Think it was the ghost he said his better half really liked a lot.
I pull the big fans only if they are blocking mid branch bud sites , when I start flush I start removing a couple a day till finished , I lollypop the extreme lower branches and usually use those for clones ,
 

NoWaistedSpace

PICK YOUR OWN
I pull the big fans only if they are blocking mid branch bud sites , when I start flush I start removing a couple a day till finished , I lollypop the extreme lower branches and usually use those for clones ,
I'll look down from the top onto the colas and I'll bend and twist the branches to open up more light and airflow.
If I'm gonna work on pulling fan leaves or shaping the plant,
I want to spray her down 2x's with some plain or light nute water, especially under the leaves and soak the stems real good. A lot of these plants, you need all the help you can get, keeping the "stem snap" to a minimum.
I start by pulling the stem up with my pointing finger while pushing my thumb down forming a clamp and I'll use it like a "roller system" to stretch, twist and manipulate the plant.
Almost forgot!
Pull leaves at your own discretion. lol
 

Big Terps

Growing on a dime
Do u like taking off the big fans while in flower? Thats something ive practiced for years now


I have 1 pack of wedding pie. Would like to get a S1 of Topanga canyon, sundae driver and ghost OG. Think it was the ghost he said his better half really liked a lot.
I agree with u on taking those huge light robbing fan leafs off especially after stretch in flower.. i see alot of pics on here that are good but also see alot of pics and think boy what those plants could look like if those huge leaves wasnt blocking light from bud sites.. Just my opinion on defoiling tho. Thx
 

NoWaistedSpace

PICK YOUR OWN
Are they blocking light, or are they solar collectors that transfer energy to the plant, in turn producing buds? I've heard it argued both ways. A definitive answer would be cool.
The definitive answer is, more light=more energy , in turn, more photosynthesis= more plant growth.
How much energy does a fan leaf create as a solar panel to how much energy does it use before it stops being an asset? After a certain growth point, the fan leaves are no longer efficient enough to be beneficial. The sugar leaves process photons way more efficiently.
Rip them fan leaves off and let the sun shine in. lol
Of course, it's "strain" dependent.
Some you just have to defoliate constantly.
 

Big Terps

Growing on a dime
Are they blocking light, or are they solar collectors that transfer energy to the plant, in turn producing buds? I've heard it argued both ways. A definitive answer would be cool.
In veg they are more important to the plant. But in flower the main purpose is to create flowers. If the fans are blocking all those bud sites u wont get a fully mature bud like u do with the tops. I just believe in whatever bud site is on your plants shud have direct beams of light on them. Its what ive allways have done. Its like when u lst a plant does those sites grow more mature branches compared to if u had not pulled the plant over? Ive herd both sides to many times and i can only speak from seeing it help the majority of plants ive done. I leave all the fans at the bottom half of plant and strip everything thats in my main canopy area. I know mr amos otis u are no rookie and know how to grow kick ass plants , my comments are just from my experience in it. Yes if u go and strip every fan off in one day i can see it stalling the plant or stressing it. Ive seen it help more plants than i did see it hurt them.. Seems like the indica dom strains can handle it better than a more sativa dom imo..
Just my 2 cents from seeing it help my plants more than hurting it.. Thx dude
 

spyralout

🌱🌿🌲🔥💨
The definitive answer is, more light=more energy , in turn, more photosynthesis= more plant growth.
How much energy does a fan leaf create as a solar panel to how much energy does it use before it stops being an asset? After a certain growth point, the fan leaves are no longer efficient enough to be beneficial. The sugar leaves process photons way more efficiently.
Rip them fan leaves off and let the sun shine in. lol
Of course, it's "strain" dependent.
Some you just have to defoliate constantly.
Define certain growth point. After stretch? During (or before) teenage bud forming years?
 
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