My Bagseed Experiment

Seed of Memory

Paradise Found
Yup. They can take water. The bigger one for sure. Lights on is usually best as Captc said. But dont be surprised if the big one wants more. They arent gonna die on you. Once you get your pots n all uppot the big one. Chit uppot em both. I think theyll like it. The littler one is concerning but alive. How often does that one seem to need water compared to the other. I know its less roots but is it taking up water?
The little one drinks like it will never get water again. Dries out 3× as fast as the big one. It has barely grown at all. Clearly it will need a bigger pot but i have so few hopes for it to do well I'm going to end up culling it to make more room for the new plants. I am just waiting to pick up my pots.
 

Old ST1R

Grow Yer Own Stone
Yes, it does. I think it is the soil i used originally. The sides will pull inward even after being fully saturated.
If the bottom leaves aren’t sagging and there is still some moisture a couple inches down, wait twelves hours and check again.

I read somewhere, and I think it’s good advice, if one is bone dry, and 10 is soggy, saturated wet, the goal is to keep them in the 3 - 7 range. Another good tid-nit of info is to only water using 10 - 15% of the container’s soil volume. So if you have three gallon pots, water using only .3 to .45 gallons of water.
 

Seed of Memory

Paradise Found
If the bottom leaves aren’t sagging and there is still some moisture a couple inches down, wait twelves hours and check again.

I read somewhere, and I think it’s good advice, if one is bone dry, and 10 is soggy, saturated wet, the goal is to keep them in the 3 - 7 range. Another good tid-nit of info is to only water using 10 - 15% of the container’s soil volume. So if you have three gallon pots, water using only .3 to .45 gallons of water.
That wouldn't create 20% runoff correct? Good advice. These are the plants I'm using to start getting this right so I can properly grow better plants.
 

Old ST1R

Grow Yer Own Stone
Yea seems like they always will go longer than i think before showing any signs of being underwatered. I favor the morning watering trying to reduce moisture during lights out. Just gives them a chance to dry up some before lights out.
Good Point Cap’n! It is Very, very dry where I live, so lights out RH is never an issue for me.

Well, that sucks. I already watered them. They should be okay though. They will look like they did before by tomorrow. It's crazy.
Yep, they will be fine! For the most part, they are a very forgiving plant, especially in soil.
 

Capt C

Saltwater Cowboy
If the bottom leaves aren’t sagging and there is still some moisture a couple inches down, wait twelves hours and check again.

I read somewhere, and I think it’s good advice, if one is bone dry, and 10 is soggy, saturated wet, the goal is to keep them in the 3 - 7 range. Another good tid-nit of info is to only water using 10 - 15% of the container’s soil volume. So if you have three gallon pots, water using only .3 to .45 gallons of water.
Do those watering amounts include a 20% runoff or ?
 

Capt C

Saltwater Cowboy
Do you feel that improves your yields or growth pace? Or is it just a preferred medium?
If i remember right you are using a soil that has nutrients in it. Be careful and tread lightly with the fox farm trio. Very easy to over feed. The coco has 0 nutes in it. So i kinda know what i need to add to it without fear of over feeding. The soil grow is the most forgiving of all medias so it is a good place to start.
 

Seed of Memory

Paradise Found
If i remember right you are using a soil that has nutrients in it. Be careful and tread lightly with the fox farm trio. Very easy to over feed. The coco has 0 nutes in it. So i kinda know what i need to add to it without fear of over feeding. The soil grow is the most forgiving of all medias so it is a good place to start.
I've got experience with other plants in soil so I understand it a bit better than other mediums.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Well, that sucks. I already watered them. They should be okay though. They will look like they did before by tomorrow. It's crazy.
When you do re-pot, I would gently knock some of the old soil off the root-ball. If it feels like mud, it isn't good for the plants. As you water, the fine silty mud still in the roots will gradually filter through the more aerated soil and the growing roots will help sort it out.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Do those watering amounts include a 20% runoff or ?
His amounts are "approximate". If your plant is still moist it won't take as much - but then it probably isn't ready to water yet. If you are soaking them, it really doesn't matter if you use more.

I would say I let mine get to the "2-3" on his 10 scale. Leaves drooping is the sign you need to have already been thinking about watering, and it is getting late ;) But thoroughly soaked soil that drains well you can't "over-soak". So you want to make sure there's good run off all the way around.

With a cloth pot you can actually feel a temperature difference between the pot and the room. You can even feel the difference between the top and bottom of the pot where the lower soil is still moist. When you water you can feel around the pot for dry spots. When it's moist it's cool.
 

Seed of Memory

Paradise Found
When you do re-pot, I would gently knock some of the old soil off the root-ball. If it feels like mud, it isn't good for the plants. As you water, the fine silty mud still in the roots will gradually filter through the more aerated soil and the growing roots will help sort it out.
So should I rinse the root ball if it is? I've done it with hibiscus before but not sure what it would do to my root system.
 

Seed of Memory

Paradise Found
His amounts are "approximate". If your plant is still moist it won't take as much - but then it probably isn't ready to water yet. If you are soaking them, it really doesn't matter if you use more.

I would say I let mine get to the "2-3" on his 10 scale. Leaves drooping is the sign you need to have already been thinking about watering, and it is getting late ;) But thoroughly soaked soil that drains well you can't "over-soak". So you want to make sure there's good run off all the way around.

With a cloth pot you can actually feel a temperature difference between the pot and the room. You can even feel the difference between the top and bottom of the pot where the lower soil is still moist. When you water you can feel around the pot for dry spots. When it's moist it's cool.
Good about the fabric pots cause mine are finally here. Well, they have been shipped and arrived at their destination. So I will have my babies in those pots on Tuesday. I just can't get them until then. After I watered the plants were already dry by yesterday at 12. Crazy. The new soil may be a bit more receptive to proper waterings.
 

Seed of Memory

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Exciting news. I definitely feel i can confirm I've got bud sites on my female. The little plant is still not showing sex though so it has until @SCJedi's seeds get here. If not by then, it is going outside to enjoy the December weather and temp changes.

So, I put up that shitty looking LED because I don't really think it can hurt. And if it is better than I think it is my plants will get some decent side lighting.

And again, please excuse my cat. He is a very curious turd. And he has claimed that table for himself so he doesn't like anything to be on it.
 

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BE THE BALL
If the bottom leaves aren’t sagging and there is still some moisture a couple inches down, wait twelves hours and check again.

I read somewhere, and I think it’s good advice, if one is bone dry, and 10 is soggy, saturated wet, the goal is to keep them in the 3 - 7 range. Another good tid-nit of info is to only water using 10 - 15% of the container’s soil volume. So if you have three gallon pots, water using only .3 to .45 gallons of water.
I just did the arithmetic for your formula against how I water and it is pretty close to 13% that I am using going by that. Getting rid of the calculator, it's easier to use a solo cup @ 1 solo cup full water/ per gallon of pot, every 2 or three days.
 
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H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
So should I rinse the root ball if it is? I've done it with hibiscus before but not sure what it would do to my root system.
I wouldn't go that far, but the hydro growers would probably say it's fine. I would "handle" the root ball, see how it feels under the "wrap" of roots you probably have around the outside . Anything that is loose should fall off. I wouldn't mess with anything beyond that. I just meant that I would not try and gently transfer the whole pot-shaped root-dirt-thing without damaging it. Get your fingers in there and "fluff" it to make sure it's not a big clay pellet.
 
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