Roadkill Skunk-

Wendel

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I keep hearing people say they have the skunk, are working with the skunk, have found the skunk in the back of a freezer that was there since back in the day... whatever.

I have NOT yet seen ANYONE on a podcast, youtube video, or judging a cannabis event that has said they smoked the skunk that someone says they found. Fuck stories the plant don't lie.
I came across it many years ago. The smell and taste was spot on what skunk spray smells like. From that day on, every single time I have smelled a skunks odor, I reminds me of that weed. It's out there, it will show its face one day hopefully.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Anyway, the Hells Angels cut was supposedly an OG, not a skunk. With OG's being lanky, small nugs, and a bitch to grow because they can't hold themselves up, I see it being more of a legend than a fact. In its prime the OG's were top-dollar or headstash but no one was slinging quarterbags because the profit margin would not have been there. They may have been slingin' eighths and calling it OG.

This was Cali, not BC by the way - regardless of where the Hell's Angels now have chapters or what their current membership and hobbies are today, back then the Hell's Angels were more crank or meth than weed, but I'm sure someone was growing them headstash. When they were selling weed it was mass quantities that they were capable of having shipped in. I reeeeealy doubt it was stuff they grew.

And if a Hells Angels dude sells you weed and says it's OG - you say "thank you sir" and move along.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I had an epiphany. It's indoor growing. And I am not talking about people breeding out the smell. I think they bred out the herm.

Back when there was skunky weed, it was mostly grown outside. No one was checking it daily unless they lived in woods in the grow, and the skunk I smoked had seeds. Not a lot, but some.

I think that as we got more knowledgeable about the plant and more people read Marijuana Botany, people started noticing the early nuts and culling the good ones. I think the skunky trait is a linked trait, and it comes with the herm. Breed it for stability and you lose the dank.
 

Shua1991

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No offense - thiol production is the reason behind the smell, and not "intersex" traits.

Vidalia onions smell less funky than red onions for thisnvery reason, the soil/growing medium and the selective breeding for lower sulfur content led to less flavourful cannabis/onions.

It has to be diet + selective breeding.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
No offense - thiol production is the reason behind the smell, and not "intersex" traits.

Vidalia onions smell less funky than red onions for thisnvery reason, the soil/growing medium and the selective breeding for lower sulfur content led to less flavourful cannabis/onions.

It has to be diet + selective breeding.
And the thiol production rate trait could be genetically linked to the trait that causes hermaphrodism in that specific strain. That is what a linked trait is - you don't get one without the other. Breed one out and lose the other. Breed out the stink the herms go, breed out the herms the stink goes.
 

Shua1991

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And the thiol production rate trait could be genetically linked to the trait that causes hermaphrodism in that specific strain. That is what a linked trait is - you don't get one without the other. Breed one out and lose the other. Breed out the stink the herms go, breed out the herms the stink goes.
Or maybe- we had to breed it out of modern cultivars for obvious reasons alongside these Intersex traits over generations.


The weed you smoked back then had seeds because growers/breeders/seed makers didn't due their due diligence in selection and so you had seeds in your herb. The weed back then was also not bred to smell like candy and cookies and had a more pungent skunky aroma, both were bred out and those traits if linked would have to be more prevalent among intersex plants, which I see no evidence of.
 

Shua1991

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Higher level of intersex plants = higher level of seeds. More seed production always leads to lower thiol/terpene production and less psychoactive flowers.


Sinsemilla smells stronger than non-sinsemilla of the same variety. Virtually always.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
Or maybe- we had to breed it out of modern cultivars for obvious reasons alongside these Intersex traits over generations.


The weed you smoked back then had seeds because growers/breeders/seed makers didn't due their due diligence in selection and so you had seeds in your herb. The weed back then was also not bred to smell like candy and cookies and had a more pungent skunky aroma, both were bred out and those traits if linked would have to be more prevalent among intersex plants, which I see no evidence of.
What I am saying is there was no choice. If you bred away from EITHER the smell OR the herms you lost both. Period. That's my theory. Linked genetic traits. If you want the skunk back you have to accept some of the abnormalities that went with it.
 

Nobighurry

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I had an epiphany. It's indoor growing. And I am not talking about people breeding out the smell. I think they bred out the herm.

Back when there was skunky weed, it was mostly grown outside. No one was checking it daily unless they lived in woods in the grow, and the skunk I smoked had seeds. Not a lot, but some.

I think that as we got more knowledgeable about the plant and more people read Marijuana Botany, people started noticing the early nuts and culling the good ones. I think the skunky trait is a linked trait, and it comes with the herm. Breed it for stability and you lose the dank.
I bred out some of the skunk (not a noticeable amount to most) by constantly breeding the earliest plants together after 10 or so years I harvested around last week of August first week sept so IMO the skunk was in the slightly longer maturitng strain but one line I messed up and all I had was mostly some sort of landrace looking plants/buds...
 

Nobighurry

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And the thiol production rate trait could be genetically linked to the trait that causes hermaphrodism in that specific strain. That is what a linked trait is - you don't get one without the other. Breed one out and lose the other. Breed out the stink the herms go, breed out the herms the stink goes.
I don't remember having to many hermi issues but you are spot on I grew gorilla in 2-3 spots in case one had some "issues" and to let some in one spot go to seed by leaving a male or 3 I could use their pollen to paint a few females with I set up auto water and only made it to each site every 2-4 weeks depending on how close to flowering once in awhile I would miss a male usually one that looked very female and he would hit a couple females
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I don't remember having to many hermi issues but you are spot on I grew gorilla in 2-3 spots in case one had some "issues" and to let some in one spot go to seed by leaving a male or 3 I could use their pollen to paint a few females with I set up auto water and only made it to each site every 2-4 weeks depending on how close to flowering once in awhile I would miss a male usually one that looked very female and he would hit a couple females
I'm saying that even if you got all the males there was still a chance of a herm, which is why it was mostly sinsemilla bud but you could occasionally find a bean. Like the plants to this day that get a few nuts on the lower nodes about week three into flower but then are fine. I believe that because there were very few beans, but when you found them they were mature and viable.
 

Shua1991

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I plan on giving some nirvana super skunk seeds a try, in the past they always gave me old school/Positronics/Sensi skunk. Idk how good their modern stuff is, I grew ice from them and it had a few rank and skunky phenotypes, same with the old Medusa(misty/skunk).

Seeds are cheap so I won't be losing much of its fruitless.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
I plan on giving some nirvana super skunk seeds a try, in the past they always gave me old school/Positronics/Sensi skunk. Idk how good their modern stuff is, I grew ice from them and it had a few rank and skunky phenotypes, same with the old Medusa(misty/skunk).

Seeds are cheap so I won't be losing much of its fruitless.
Just based on his advice that I have followed I respect the opinion of Duke Diamond. He has several skunky strains from old stock but doesn't claim to have the roadkill. Other than it being a genetic trait, and possibly an upper elevation Apalacian Mountains terrior like WVa or KY, but it's also probably mnot goiing to be found in anything named skunk from that era.

The Skunk1 et.al. was floral and spicy. No funk. In the way-back on the lineage there is Afghani that may have some hidden funk, but looking through a skunk strain instead of Afghani is like trying to find one of your grandkids that look just like your grandpa - rather than looking for one of your kids to look like you.

Afghani, or the Northern Lites line which is an inbred Afghani line would be the best starting point I think.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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Just based on his advice that I have followed I respect the opinion of Duke Diamond. He has several skunky strains from old stock but doesn't claim to have the roadkill. Other than it being a genetic trait, and possibly an upper elevation Apalacian Mountains terrior like WVa or KY, but it's also probably mnot goiing to be found in anything named skunk from that era.

The Skunk1 et.al. was floral and spicy. No funk. In the way-back on the lineage there is Afghani that may have some hidden funk, but looking through a skunk strain instead of Afghani is like trying to find one of your grandkids that look just like your grandpa - rather than looking for one of your kids to look like you.

Afghani, or the Northern Lites line which is an inbred Afghani line would be the best starting point I think.
The closest thing I've found in the last 10 or 12 years came from Soma Rock Bud A+. Korean Skunk hybrid.
Yes, the Roadkill, Catpiss and straight Skunk all are coming from the same genetics.
The cultivars I'm growing now have an Ammonia and Catpiss smell. It wreaks to the point of being "nasty".
If you have a room of this, you'd understand why people tried to breed the smell out.
There's no way to hide it.
The taste is very "sour". Not sweet and not spicy.
I'd say Skunk is a precursor to the "lemon" strains of today.
I'm definitely gonna reveg one of these.
I made some clones but not sure if I cloned the Catpiss.
I found some old pollen here so I hit the 2 stinkiest I have. Not sure if they will take. The flowers are coming on quick. Looks like between 7 and 8 week flowering period. We'll see.
 
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