Newbie seeking guidance/mentoring

BreezyB330

Active Member
Hello,
As the title suggested, i am new to the process and community and in search of guidance/mentoring.
A little background...
I have attempted 1 run thus far,and i was overwhelmed and under-prepared. I am ready to attempt my second and have most,if not all, of the supplies that i will need to have a successful run. I have a 2x4x6.5 tent,1 mars ts600 led, 1 mars ts1000 led, 1 vivosun carbon filter and exhaust set up with an ac infinity inline duct fan, and 2 oscillating fans.
I have purchased some autos and photos and would like to pop 2 of each. I want to use soil,and am researching water only and living soil options.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! I have checked our some other sites as well,but have found then a little disheartening.I'm looking forward to learning and growing.:cool::cool::cool:
 

sfrigon1

Seed Aficionado
Hello,
As the title suggested, i am new to the process and community and in search of guidance/mentoring.
A little background...
I have attempted 1 run thus far,and i was overwhelmed and under-prepared. I am ready to attempt my second and have most,if not all, of the supplies that i will need to have a successful run. I have a 2x4x6.5 tent,1 mars ts600 led, 1 mars ts1000 led, 1 vivosun carbon filter and exhaust set up with an ac infinity inline duct fan, and 2 oscillating fans.
I have purchased some autos and photos and would like to pop 2 of each. I want to use soil,and am researching water only and living soil options.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! I have checked our some other sites as well,but have found then a little disheartening.I'm looking forward to learning and growing.:cool::cool::cool:
Hell yeah! Welcome 😁
U ever have any questions at all just post it 👍
 
So....the TS-600 and TS-1000 wont be enough once you are in full flower. Keep the veg time down because that's alot of plants for a 2x4. The problem with 2 different lights is one side will be brighter then the other and this in return will affect final yield. If you could...try to pair another TS-1000 down the road with your current one. If you are on a budget.....the lights will be more then fine. Also, no need to use the filter for a while so no need to even hook it up yet.
 

Skunkle Justin

Active Member
Hello,
As the title suggested, i am new to the process and community and in search of guidance/mentoring.
A little background...
I have attempted 1 run thus far,and i was overwhelmed and under-prepared. I am ready to attempt my second and have most,if not all, of the supplies that i will need to have a successful run. I have a 2x4x6.5 tent,1 mars ts600 led, 1 mars ts1000 led, 1 vivosun carbon filter and exhaust set up with an ac infinity inline duct fan, and 2 oscillating fans.
I have purchased some autos and photos and would like to pop 2 of each. I want to use soil,and am researching water only and living soil options.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! I have checked our some other sites as well,but have found then a little disheartening.I'm looking forward to learning and growing.:cool::cool::cool:
Yo! That’s what we are all here for. First, I would pick one or the other of your photos or autos. They don’t mix well unless you are keeping autos in a veg tent to flower out also, which works but isn’t optimal. Also, autos can be a little unforgiving with newer growers because you need to have a flawless veg cycle to get a good harvest. Just a little stress can make them start to flower even if they’re only 15-20 days old. As far as the forum experience you are talking about, well, that’s just the way it goes in nearly every forum for any subject matter. You’re extremes you’re gonna run across are these whack-ass gardening elitists who aren’t good at anything else in their life so they just talk shit and offer little to no help, or, other people who are trying to make their garden into some kind of NASA experiment with every crazy bottled nutrient and soil amendments because they are convinced that getting another 5% gain in yield is possible. There are a million reasons to avoid these jokers. Then all you have to worry about is filtering out all the “bro science” out there. Here are some bullet points to help get you started that I would be happy to go into depth on if you want:
• super soils and top dressing is the lowest maintenance way of growing, but you have to make sure you have a good recipe and don’t overwater. Water culture and NFT/ Dutch Table grows are like driving a race car. You get quick results and huge yield fast but you have to be willing to keep up with a nutrient reservoir that will change properties almost daily. So troubleshooting needs to be a strong suit for you.
•go in your garden EVERY day. This is how you identify deficiencies or excesses your plants are trying to tell you about through it’s leaves. This is also how you stay ahead of pests and pathogens. Which leads me to...
• have a good IPM (integrated pest management) plan that you maintain daily. Bugs will find a way to creep in and so will fungus spores. If you use tobacco, wash your hands well and use gloves because a lot of folks are transferring tobacco mosaic virus to their plants from their cigarettes or some funk and bugs from their buddy’s grow room. Also properly quarantine any clones or plants you put in your garden. Treat every cut you get like it has spider mites, root aphids, and PM before it’s introduced to the rest of the gang
• make sure your grow environment is dialed in before you put your plants in there. It really sucks trying to figure out where you want your lights, how you’re gonna keep it cool/warm/humid/dry enough, or where in the house you want your tent when there are plants in it. Let your tent or grow room run for a week or a few days at least do you can address any issues that pop up.
• don’t go buying hundreds of dollars worth of exotic nutrient lines. If you’re not working with a commercial budget, don’t spend money like you are. Start with something basic like a simple two or three part combo and build off that as you see fit. A lot of people are growing killer bud with General Hydroponics or Epsoma organic bag nutes.
• Get good lights. “Blurple” LED lights are very inefficient, even more so than HPS. Your lights are the engine that provides the horsepower for your grow. Weak lights will give you small fluffy buds with little canopy penetration. Going through a 4-5 month process to grow a plant with baby buds that look like hair balls is very discouraging.
• Stick with good genetics. This may be the most important thing. No matter how good your lights are or how dialed in your environment is, if you have shit genetics, you’re gonna get a shit yield and smoke. Bag seeds are not reliable. The pollen that helped create those seeds came from somewhere. Either the plant is a hermi or some rogue male was too close and now you have a hybrid that will come out nothing like the bud you smoked.
Those are just a few of the basic fundamentals to start with. I can go on and on and I’m sure there will be someone who thinks everything I said is stupid. Just remember, do what works best for you and what you like doing in YOUR garden. Ultimately what you say goes and you get the last word. This is your new hobby this is supposed to be fun and it absolutely is once you find your niche with it.
 

NoWaistedSpace

I'm Hoarding Skunk
Hello,
As the title suggested, i am new to the process and community and in search of guidance/mentoring.
A little background...
I have attempted 1 run thus far,and i was overwhelmed and under-prepared. I am ready to attempt my second and have most,if not all, of the supplies that i will need to have a successful run. I have a 2x4x6.5 tent,1 mars ts600 led, 1 mars ts1000 led, 1 vivosun carbon filter and exhaust set up with an ac infinity inline duct fan, and 2 oscillating fans.
I have purchased some autos and photos and would like to pop 2 of each. I want to use soil,and am researching water only and living soil options.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! I have checked our some other sites as well,but have found then a little disheartening.I'm looking forward to learning and growing.:cool::cool::cool:
Buy you a bale of Pro-Mix. 3.8 cu ft. (<$30.00) if you go to a farm or greenhouse supplier. Enough to do 30 x's 2 gal felt containers. It is a straight peat and perlite mix with Mycrobes added. 15-30lbs of worm compost and 2lbs of kelp meal to feed the microbes. Maybe some Megacrop or Jacks 321 nutrients or equal until your medium begins to come alive. That will get you up and running for less than a 100 bill.
 

sfrigon1

Seed Aficionado
Yo! That’s what we are all here for. First, I would pick one or the other of your photos or autos. They don’t mix well unless you are keeping autos in a veg tent to flower out also, which works but isn’t optimal. Also, autos can be a little unforgiving with newer growers because you need to have a flawless veg cycle to get a good harvest. Just a little stress can make them start to flower even if they’re only 15-20 days old. As far as the forum experience you are talking about, well, that’s just the way it goes in nearly every forum for any subject matter. You’re extremes you’re gonna run across are these whack-ass gardening elitists who aren’t good at anything else in their life so they just talk shit and offer little to no help, or, other people who are trying to make their garden into some kind of NASA experiment with every crazy bottled nutrient and soil amendments because they are convinced that getting another 5% gain in yield is possible. There are a million reasons to avoid these jokers. Then all you have to worry about is filtering out all the “bro science” out there. Here are some bullet points to help get you started that I would be happy to go into depth on if you want:
• super soils and top dressing is the lowest maintenance way of growing, but you have to make sure you have a good recipe and don’t overwater. Water culture and NFT/ Dutch Table grows are like driving a race car. You get quick results and huge yield fast but you have to be willing to keep up with a nutrient reservoir that will change properties almost daily. So troubleshooting needs to be a strong suit for you.
•go in your garden EVERY day. This is how you identify deficiencies or excesses your plants are trying to tell you about through it’s leaves. This is also how you stay ahead of pests and pathogens. Which leads me to...
• have a good IPM (integrated pest management) plan that you maintain daily. Bugs will find a way to creep in and so will fungus spores. If you use tobacco, wash your hands well and use gloves because a lot of folks are transferring tobacco mosaic virus to their plants from their cigarettes or some funk and bugs from their buddy’s grow room. Also properly quarantine any clones or plants you put in your garden. Treat every cut you get like it has spider mites, root aphids, and PM before it’s introduced to the rest of the gang
• make sure your grow environment is dialed in before you put your plants in there. It really sucks trying to figure out where you want your lights, how you’re gonna keep it cool/warm/humid/dry enough, or where in the house you want your tent when there are plants in it. Let your tent or grow room run for a week or a few days at least do you can address any issues that pop up.
• don’t go buying hundreds of dollars worth of exotic nutrient lines. If you’re not working with a commercial budget, don’t spend money like you are. Start with something basic like a simple two or three part combo and build off that as you see fit. A lot of people are growing killer bud with General Hydroponics or Epsoma organic bag nutes.
• Get good lights. “Blurple” LED lights are very inefficient, even more so than HPS. Your lights are the engine that provides the horsepower for your grow. Weak lights will give you small fluffy buds with little canopy penetration. Going through a 4-5 month process to grow a plant with baby buds that look like hair balls is very discouraging.
• Stick with good genetics. This may be the most important thing. No matter how good your lights are or how dialed in your environment is, if you have shit genetics, you’re gonna get a shit yield and smoke. Bag seeds are not reliable. The pollen that helped create those seeds came from somewhere. Either the plant is a hermi or some rogue male was too close and now you have a hybrid that will come out nothing like the bud you smoked.
Those are just a few of the basic fundamentals to start with. I can go on and on and I’m sure there will be someone who thinks everything I said is stupid. Just remember, do what works best for you and what you like doing in YOUR garden. Ultimately what you say goes and you get the last word. This is your new hobby this is supposed to be fun and it absolutely is once you find your niche with it.
Well said skuncle 👌
 

Opie1

Master Grower
Pick either the photos or the autos, you can’t grow both, not unless your gonna veg for over 2+ months (and that’s not gonna be ideal in a 2x4).
I 2nd on going with Promix as your medium.

Glad to have you, if you have any questions, just ask, there’s plenty of help around here.
 

treefarmercharlie

🍆
Admin
As a beginner I would stick to photos and try to stick to a single strain per grow until you figure things out. I also agree that ProMix HP is great to start with but you will need to feed the plants since it isn’t amended with fertilizer. For an easy to use nutrient line, I would recommend something like the Advanced Nutrients Sensi line and only feed once a week at half the recommended dose. I had great results with that feed schedule with ProMix HP.
 

H.A.F.

a.k.a. Rusty Nails
My tidbit of advice for soil growing is to stick to organic. It can be 'bag-o-organic' soil that is premade/mixed/cooked/ph-adjusted etc. It doesn't have to be hard. Look for the OMRI listing on the nutes. It is just a lot more forgiving than salt-based nutes. Makes tastier flowers too, and no flushing needed.
 

gwheels

Hobby Farmer
Run the autos only first. Then run some photos and you can see what you prefer.

Autos are easy because you set the light to 20/4 or and just feed and water as needed. I started with them and had smoke pretty quick...then i shifted to photo period plants for variety and strength.

But autos can do it for sure..some of they are stupid strong too.
 

treefarmercharlie

🍆
Admin
Run the autos only first. Then run some photos and you can see what you prefer.

Autos are easy because you set the light to 20/4 or and just feed and water as needed. I started with them and had smoke pretty quick...then i shifted to photo period plants for variety and strength.

But autos can do it for sure..some of they are stupid strong too.
The only easy thing about autos is the light schedule. They are very unforgiving to mistakes often made by new growers because you can't let them grow out of those mistakes by extending the veg cycle.
 

BreezyB330

Active Member
So....the TS-600 and TS-1000 wont be enough once you are in full flower. Keep the veg time down because that's alot of plants for a 2x4. The problem with 2 different lights is one side will be brighter then the other and this in return will affect final yield. If you could...try to pair another TS-1000 down the road with your current one. If you are on a budget.....the lights will be more then fine. Also, no need to use the filter for a while so no need to even hook it up yet.
Thanks for the feedback! By the time i get to flower i should be able to get another ts1000 at the least. I have been looking at the hlg lights,and will missy likely save up for one of those.
 
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