HB pheno mom strains as clones in Turbokloner 144
- Thread starter Bc_ca
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Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
I don’t know man...... seems like a turbo cloner isn’t appropriate to sustain plants long term. I think you’d do much better keeping them in soil because it is far more forgiving than hydro. One slip of pH, too much or too little nutes, power outage, whatever, you’ve got some time with soil, not so much in water.
Heathenraider
Heathen Basterd
put em 2 Liter / 1/2 gal pots in soil under low light in a tent if You want Them to last long term. 18/6 lighting.
Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
I’ve got some bonsai moms in 3.5” pots that are doing quite well for a few months now.
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
I’ve got everything started in grodan now stabilized into dirt lol. 
I have to take mom clones from all the other moms as I keep their size down I really need to transition to bare root the turbokloner is the only platform that gets me bare root clones every time I cut plants. Once the 3 bare root inventory of strains are Establish I would like transitioning to a covered drain and flood matted tray with bare root clones in 5.5 net pots
Then I can grow established bare root netpot plants straight to my rdwc HB buckets. No hydroton required
perhaps.
I have to take mom clones from all the other moms as I keep their size down I really need to transition to bare root the turbokloner is the only platform that gets me bare root clones every time I cut plants. Once the 3 bare root inventory of strains are Establish I would like transitioning to a covered drain and flood matted tray with bare root clones in 5.5 net pots
Then I can grow established bare root netpot plants straight to my rdwc HB buckets. No hydroton required
perhaps.
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
Out of the shipping box
setup pump and spray manifold
Install fan set plugs and cover
Again due to my osteoarthritis
Shoulders and knees everything is carted for ease of mobility. Aka commercial laundry cart. New home for turbokloner 144
As well picked up the recommended
Water amendments and conditioners along with distilled water.
Still need to setup a t5 100w /200w
Solution for down lighting mounted to cart
setup pump and spray manifold
Install fan set plugs and cover
Again due to my osteoarthritis
Shoulders and knees everything is carted for ease of mobility. Aka commercial laundry cart. New home for turbokloner 144
As well picked up the recommended
Water amendments and conditioners along with distilled water.
Still need to setup a t5 100w /200w
Solution for down lighting mounted to cart
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Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
Or 144 clones of the same plant!
Old ST1R
Grow Yer Own Stone
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
The task of taking 3 clones from 36 existing potted moms seems quite daunting and intense. There will be no trial & error pre runs using the turbokloner . As well it seems that the cut must take place quickly and
Placed into the Tkloner PdQ.
I now though have a single persisting issue with nutrients.
I use flora series 3part
I use 1/4 to 1/2 of ml to gal specified on chart.
I keep the (Ner) as req
And my Ec low
Ph 6.2 - 6.5
104 -144 for established seedlings
144-220 for small plant 12” less
244 - 344 for plants 18”-36”
All in veg , all in 707 dirt ,
Every time I use the hydrozyme
Mixing 1gAL 5gal or 50 gal
In 1day it starts to smell like
Old fish bait water (minnow bucket water)
This is uv/Ro treated water.
And even distilled water it always
Kicks in with fish bait water smell after a day.
It’s not s issue making 3-5 gallons of
Feed water. But I just had to feed water the grapes, roses and pecan trees after mixing a 50 gal rez and feeding once the next day it’s foaming and leaving a film on surface of hose and tank. That’s
1 night of water recirculating with 4 air stones in complete darkness
Hydrozyme gives great roots but I get instant film foam growth
Placed into the Tkloner PdQ.
I now though have a single persisting issue with nutrients.
I use flora series 3part
I use 1/4 to 1/2 of ml to gal specified on chart.
I keep the (Ner) as req
And my Ec low
Ph 6.2 - 6.5
104 -144 for established seedlings
144-220 for small plant 12” less
244 - 344 for plants 18”-36”
All in veg , all in 707 dirt ,
Every time I use the hydrozyme
Mixing 1gAL 5gal or 50 gal
In 1day it starts to smell like
Old fish bait water (minnow bucket water)
This is uv/Ro treated water.
And even distilled water it always
Kicks in with fish bait water smell after a day.
It’s not s issue making 3-5 gallons of
Feed water. But I just had to feed water the grapes, roses and pecan trees after mixing a 50 gal rez and feeding once the next day it’s foaming and leaving a film on surface of hose and tank. That’s
1 night of water recirculating with 4 air stones in complete darkness
Hydrozyme gives great roots but I get instant film foam growth
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
Turbokloner 144 is up and running
It requires:
10 gallons of distilled water.
(1) (120vac) 6 outlets plug
ins
(1) 100w t5 4100k 2x4 light
Nutrients:
Clonex rooting gel (taking cuts dip)
Clear Rez
SFL-100
Clonex clone solution
——————————————-
Instructions on set I followed:
Use only distilled water.
Add no additives at beginning.
10gal fills level of tank and covers submerged pump intake only.
Run both pump & fan always.
Cut large healthy clones.
Dip cutting in clonex root gel
Place stem cut into holder.
cuts can be added while unit runs.
Once nodules are observed on stems .....
Clear Rez , SLF-100 &
Clonex clone solution can be added to tank.
It requires:
10 gallons of distilled water.
(1) (120vac) 6 outlets plug
ins(1) 100w t5 4100k 2x4 light
Nutrients:
Clonex rooting gel (taking cuts dip)
Clear Rez
SFL-100
Clonex clone solution
——————————————-
Instructions on set I followed:
Use only distilled water.
Add no additives at beginning.
10gal fills level of tank and covers submerged pump intake only.
Run both pump & fan always.
Cut large healthy clones.
Dip cutting in clonex root gel
Place stem cut into holder.
cuts can be added while unit runs.
Once nodules are observed on stems .....
Clear Rez , SLF-100 &
Clonex clone solution can be added to tank.
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Bc_ca
Super Active Member
To me .. being able to painlessly home grow Using a hydro based method requires well established bare root clones. These are Highest prized free of possible contamination from other step transfer media methods. I now have the majority of my moms in small 6” pots.... always to stay.
10” veg moms and 6” moms all will provide cuttings for the newly attempt to establish a bare root clone library. Once successfully fulfilled then..
All 10” moms are now in scrogged and will go to flower.
HB is on target about the floraflex once setup. I Just fed all the 10” potted moms & It took about 5 gallons in 1min. This is with 2 rings
for each pot with 1 hose each ring . I have the valves all set to 1/2 position as well. I will post pics of cuts & turbokloner in a few days.
Establishing these moms has been a
An awesome experience and HB genetics through his personal selection requirements of the strain moms and choice selection of best seeds ... I have received the best a grower could ask looking for Fire
!
Look forward to your 4/20 drop!
Thanks HB!!
10” veg moms and 6” moms all will provide cuttings for the newly attempt to establish a bare root clone library. Once successfully fulfilled then..
All 10” moms are now in scrogged and will go to flower.
HB is on target about the floraflex once setup. I Just fed all the 10” potted moms & It took about 5 gallons in 1min. This is with 2 rings
for each pot with 1 hose each ring . I have the valves all set to 1/2 position as well. I will post pics of cuts & turbokloner in a few days.
Establishing these moms has been a
An awesome experience and HB genetics through his personal selection requirements of the strain moms and choice selection of best seeds ... I have received the best a grower could ask looking for Fire
!Look forward to your 4/20 drop!
Thanks HB!!
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
Took 40 more cuts from
10 more HB Strains 4 cuts per strain
Out of all the periwinkle was the easiest and natural to give up cuts from bottom up in symmetry and strong proportional growth.
The hardest was purple chem
Plant was tight good growth bottom up but it really kept compacted.
That’s not 2/3 of all of HB strains I have going. Still got more tomorrow
Perhaps.
Pics of the 80 cutting in the turbokloner . Under 1/2 lighting
10 more HB Strains 4 cuts per strain
Out of all the periwinkle was the easiest and natural to give up cuts from bottom up in symmetry and strong proportional growth.
The hardest was purple chem
Plant was tight good growth bottom up but it really kept compacted.
That’s not 2/3 of all of HB strains I have going. Still got more tomorrow
Perhaps.
Pics of the 80 cutting in the turbokloner . Under 1/2 lighting
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Bc_ca
Super Active Member
The Veg /clones Room:
Turbokloner almost full
even so LED are too direct focused lighting For small clones... so went back to T5 100w 4100k (2) lamps 54w
200 watts 4100k on the GG4 & BrideZilla clones.
established clones are a must.
A).The turbokloner my extended Hybrid air cooled misted Dwc. I plan to allow longer root growth . As much as possible.
B). The backup Safety of 707 soil medium 6” pots unbeatable indoor. Grow medium safety.
C). I will try long rooted clones back to 3”-4” grodan cubes I can fill centers with 707 soil or split cut root rooters and insert into grodan cubes. Or even try split grodan cube.
D)will try again 2-3 clones of each strain back to grodan starter cubes .
Gonna take all of these clone opportunities again from 35 HB strains once again as backup to the backup before flipping to flowering.
Clones clones clones there safety in clones or at least it feels like it.
“Not having to start from zero if something blows up” feels reassuring.
Turbokloner almost full
even so LED are too direct focused lighting For small clones... so went back to T5 100w 4100k (2) lamps 54w
200 watts 4100k on the GG4 & BrideZilla clones.
established clones are a must.
A).The turbokloner my extended Hybrid air cooled misted Dwc. I plan to allow longer root growth . As much as possible.
B). The backup Safety of 707 soil medium 6” pots unbeatable indoor. Grow medium safety.
C). I will try long rooted clones back to 3”-4” grodan cubes I can fill centers with 707 soil or split cut root rooters and insert into grodan cubes. Or even try split grodan cube.
D)will try again 2-3 clones of each strain back to grodan starter cubes .
Gonna take all of these clone opportunities again from 35 HB strains once again as backup to the backup before flipping to flowering.
Clones clones clones there safety in clones or at least it feels like it.
“Not having to start from zero if something blows up” feels reassuring.
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
Ok it’s been 19days I have kept theI took (4) cuts per plant
10 plants - 40 clones started last night.
Ph at 5.8-5.6 daily.
lights are 0n 24/7 for last 16 days.
Last 2 days lights now18/6 cycle.
Pump off only to chk ph
Fan on 24/7.
Misted plants 2x daily di water
When dome is dry only.
No additional nutes added at all.
ppm 103 ph 5.8 after 19days.
(April 1 to April 19 ) 18 days.
Now let’s look
under the skirtShall we
...
Oh yes the girls have legs now
The Rez stayed clear and clean. no
Changout required
...
Turbokloner to hydro Rdwc is the solid way to go once you get there.
I need to slow down clones growth by reducing daily over all light intake.
Maybe 50w of t5 @ 18/6 we see .
Right now I’m at 3 day of 100/w 18/6
Ph5.8 ppm 103 once the roots hits the water they will drink .
Bc_ca
Super Active Member
well thanks to Uncle HB’s latest YouTube video plant spacing is
No longer any issue which means
I can take these clones to 4” dirt pots all 35 strains ! Into veg..
Then up-pot to 9” pots thru and
Flip all 35 strains at once to flower
And finish all with (3) 3x3 grow trays
WOW
Then. Before these go to flower take new cuts for clones on all 35 strains
Back to the turbokloner
No longer any issue which means
I can take these clones to 4” dirt pots all 35 strains ! Into veg..
Then up-pot to 9” pots thru and
Flip all 35 strains at once to flower
And finish all with (3) 3x3 grow trays
WOW
Then. Before these go to flower take new cuts for clones on all 35 strains
Back to the turbokloner