reviveing old seeds to germ with GA3 gabrillec acid

Hogbackmagic

Hogbackmagic

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hi all I am not sure if anyone has tried this but I just got my GA3 today
I have some seeds 10+years old and a lot of different strains just stuff I liked and bread them
myself I am trying to revive my Blue God for starters ii tried popping these about a year ago
with no success I tried scuffing and splitting seeds and nothing I figure if I can get only a few to grow i
will be chucking in the future it sucks when things are fucked up in life where ya have to take a break from stuff
and now with weed being legal in mass and Vermont I feel a little safer talking about weed

So this is what I started with for a mixture of GA3
1cup of warm water room temp 1gram of GA3 ppm's@300
I will soak 5 of these for 12hours give it a shake if seeds are still floating
I will wait till 24hrs. these are nice seeds so I am hopeing for a miracle here
I got around 50 or so of these pheno's wich are bomb mostly indica dom with a lot of purp
I do have other strains or crosses I am goin to be playing around with that are just as old if not older
thanks for stopin in. I will be posting all my mixtures and germ rates if any as I have a lot of
catching up to do
Happy growing✌
 

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Hogbackmagic

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HydroRed said:
Im quite curious to see your results @Hogbackmagic
I have some vintage stuff (22+ yrs old) that I have had zero luck on popping so far and before I waste any more, I think im gonna try the GA3 as well. Schwaggy P had recommended it for getting better results out of old beans.
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@HydroRed yeah I guess older seeds like that may need a higher ppm like 500 I read
for seeds 10yrs and up they say anywhere from 200ppm and up the thing is
after they pop a tale is it goin to sprout they say its like growing mushroom spores
everything must be sterile but I don't have a lab so I am winging it. there is some
kind of sterile sugar as well but I am goin with GA3 if they pop tales I will give
them some rooting solution in paper towel they say if they pop they will stretch like crazy
but genetics should be fine if you breed them that's what they say (y) :cool:
 
Hogbackmagic

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ok HELLO EVERYONE THANKS FOR STOPPING BY

oops sorry for shouting :cool:
so far this is what went down I soaked them beans in GA3 for rouphley 7hrs
3 of 6 seeds sank to bottom of cup at this point
transferd seeds in paper towel wet with the GA3 mix let them set for 15hrs
now i mix up some olivia's rooting solution
this is the ppm mix starting from well water @ 195ppm+the solution i used 1 household teaspoon
and brought the total ppm to 356 -195=161 ppm of solution now i wait and see what tomorrow brings
 

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crimsonecho

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Any roots yet?

Hogbackmagic said:
ok HELLO EVERYONE THANKS FOR STOPPING BY

oops sorry for shouting :cool:
so far this is what went down I soaked them beans in GA3 for rouphley 7hrs
3 of 6 seeds sank to bottom of cup at this point
transferd seeds in paper towel wet with the GA3 mix let them set for 15hrs
now i mix up some olivia's rooting solution
this is the ppm mix starting from well water @ 195ppm+the solution i used 1 household teaspoon
and brought the total ppm to 356 -195=161 ppm of solution now i wait and see what tomorrow brings
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crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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Hogbackmagic said:
still in the oven baking brother :cool:
I wish it was instant sprout lol I will be checking later today
to see whats happening if this don't work I will be doing other tests
this is new for me a lot of info out there just weeding through different methods
what I want to try and have on hand to use for helping get these to sprout
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I wish you success brotha! I heard seeds losing their natural oils has a part in this low germination rates too so some people also suggest using a little vg or vegetable oil to give the seeds that oil back. Just read about this tho, never implemented the technique but if it doesn’t work straight away you may give that a shot in combination with GA3.
 
Hogbackmagic

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HELLO EVERYONE !!!
I checked no sign of them crackin yet I am going to do another 6 seeds
this time I will scuff with sand paper and try to soften the shell they seem pretty hard
I will start this time soaking seeds in peroxide mix to sterilize seeds
before soaking in GA3 and then after that I have some DYNA-GROW K-L-N
rooting concentrate I am hopeing if I get a tale to pop using the k-l-n
will help it along to the next step of the germination progress
this is trial and error and 99.9% luck if I get a coupe of these to pop out of dirt
I will be happier than pig on :poop: I tell you what!!!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

thanks for dropping by 🌱🌳
 
Hogbackmagic

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CrimsonEcho said:
I wish you success brotha! I heard seeds losing their natural oils has a part in this low germination rates too so some people also suggest using a little vg or vegetable oil to give the seeds that oil back. Just read about this tho, never implemented the technique but if it doesn’t work straight away you may give that a shot in combination with GA3.
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thanks man I figure I can try to sprout these till the last seed or let them get older and not try
so I figure this is going to clear my conscience and not have to wonder ….IF
I still have other old seeds of bluegod #1 she was a sativa leaning but flowered like a indica
I want to mix up some older genes with new genes it will be like
a box of chocolates ya never know what your going to get out of it but old school flavor hell yeah
 
crimsonecho

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InfiniteIndo said:
Hm.. I need to research this stuff more for application rates and such. I wanna use it to make "natural" reversals / fem seeds. Will keep an eye on what you're doing here
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Ok i’m not gonna claim that i know much about chemistry and biology but i think using silver is as natural as using GA3. Besides anything that has 99% purity is more than likely synthetic and not natural. I had good luck with STS and CS. Just saying. Either case wish you well in your future endeavours.
 
InfiniteIndo

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CrimsonEcho said:
Ok i’m not gonna claim that i know much about chemistry and biology but i think using silver is as natural as using GA3. Besides anything that has 99% purity is more than likely synthetic and not natural. I had good luck with STS and CS. Just saying. Either case wish you well in your future endeavours.
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I currently use STS I don't have a wealth of knowledge on the science either but just heard old school breeders saying ga3 is how you get "natural" "super" fems without stress or something to that effect. Definitely need to read up on it more now
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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InfiniteIndo said:
I currently use STS I don't have a wealth of knowledge on the science either but just heard old school breeders saying ga3 is how you get "natural" "super" fems without stress or something to that effect. Definitely need to read up on it more now
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I get that giberellic acid is a natural compound and its present in the plant and when you supply an “overdose” you get sacks from fems.

I get that part and it can be said that ga is natural since its present in the plant but i’m not sure you get natural products in a bottle but rather you get synthesized chemical products probably.

So in that sense silver is pretty natural too imho. I’m sure its present in small amounts in the plants just like ga. And silver is really not that bad for your health or anything. Some people use that stuff as medicine. Sodium thiosulfate is a medicine also. Its used in cyanide poisoning. And silver nitrate is well silver and nitrate.

I have bad ocd, i’m battling with it but i feel pretty comfortable with sts or cs. Definitely not knocking ga down. I haven’t even used it and i would like to see if it delivers all that. But i just use sts on plants in little pots and throw away the pot and the soil after i’m done to prevent cross contamination. Also i use a designated tray for them so others doesn’t wick back the runoff etc etc. Pretty standard stuff.
 
InfiniteIndo

InfiniteIndo

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CrimsonEcho said:
I get that giberellic acid is a natural compound and its present in the plant and when you supply an “overdose” you get sacks from fems.

I get that part and it can be said that ga is natural since its present in the plant but i’m not sure you get natural products in a bottle but rather you get synthesized chemical products probably.

So in that sense silver is pretty natural too imho. I’m sure its present in small amounts in the plants just like ga. And silver is really not that bad for your health or anything. Some people use that stuff as medicine. Sodium thiosulfate is a medicine also. Its used in cyanide poisoning. And silver nitrate is well silver and nitrate.

I have bad ocd, i’m battling with it but i feel pretty comfortable with sts or cs. Definitely not knocking ga down. I haven’t even used it and i would like to see if it delivers all that. But i just use sts on plants in little pots and throw away the pot and the soil after i’m done to prevent cross contamination. Also i use a designated tray for them so others doesn’t wick back the runoff etc etc. Pretty standard stuff.
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Appreciate the knowledge. I recently got some fems from Mass Medical who promotes growing all naturally and what not.. so I'd assume they use ga3 and their fems looked bigger and healthier than any other fems I have but for all I know that's strain dependent. I definitely would like to know if ga3 produces a better fem seed now but I'll stick with the STS for sure, cheap and effective. Never even knew ga3 was used the way @Hogbackmagic is using it
 
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