Reversing multiple cuts same tent

[SF603]

Hey just wondering if anyone here has reversed multiple like 2-3 cuts at the same time while still keeping the pollen isolated, is cross contamination a major risk and best to just do one at a time? Or easy enough to keep them separated. What id like to do is reverse 2 cuts, isolate the pollen, and individually pollinate the mother cuts so I can get 2 reversals done in 90ish days instead of 180. Just for personal use just don’t really want to do 2 seed runs back to back. Appreciate any info.

 

[Fiddler's Green]

Do you have more than one tent? What solution will you be using (CS or STS)? How many cuts are you using per cultivar?

 

[H.A.F.]

... why?

You hit the nail on the head with pollen contamination. That would be a hot mess. You might find cool stuff in there but you'd never know what madde it. I guess it depends on your goal so

... WHY???

 

[SF603]

Do you have more than one tent? What solution will you be using (CS or STS)? How many cuts are you using per cultivar?

3 veg tents, one is for moms so a 4x4 and 2x4 are always rotating/ available and STS, don’t need many seeds so probably 2 reversed cuts per incase I somehow fuck one up

 

[SF603]

... why?

You hit the nail on the head with pollen contamination. That would be a hot mess. You might find cool stuff in there but you'd never know what madde it. I guess it depends on your goal so

... WHY???

Why? Cause I got some seed hunted keepers and breeder cuts I think could do some funky stuff together and nobody’s dropped shit I really feel like hunting for 2-3 years at this point. Why pay out the ass to hunt someone else’s gear when I can do the same thing most “breeders” do and chuck a F1. As for 2 at once, I grow for the majority of my smoke and a couple friends/family so spending 6 months on a couple experiments would kinda slow the process more than I’d like. But yeah want to be 100% sure what I cross is what it is so looks like it’s gonna be one at a time.

 

[H.A.F.]

Why? Cause I got some seed hunted keepers and breeder cuts I think could do some funky stuff together and nobody’s dropped shit I really feel like hunting for 2-3 years at this point. Why pay out the ass to hunt someone else’s gear when I can do the same thing most “breeders” do and chuck a F1. As for 2 at once, I grow for the majority of my smoke and a couple friends/family so spending 6 months on a couple experiments would kinda slow the process more than I’d like. But yeah want to be 100% sure what I cross is what it is so looks like it’s gonna be one at a time.

My point was that you will just get a mish-mash of stuff out of the seeds. One grain of pollen is gonna produce one seed with one stigma. There's no "my two dads" thing that can happen. You can get pollen from different plants hitting the same flower - but each seed is just gonna be A+B.

Honestly reversing more than one and you're just making bagseeds on purpose LOL

 

[SF603]

My point was that you will just get a mish-mash of stuff out of the seeds. One grain of pollen is gonna produce one seed with one stigma. There's no "my two dads" thing that can happen. You can get pollen from different plants hitting the same flower - but each seed is just gonna be A+B.

Honestly reversing more than one and you're just making bagseeds on purpose LOL

Gotchu, didn’t plan on open pollinating with multiple reversed males was going to do a dry and store the pollen and pollinate individually type situation. Don’t want to gamble with the different reversals dropping pollen on each other and mixing so I agree the risk is too high of cross contamination. Was hoping people before me somehow pulled it off but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

 

[SF603]

My point was that you will just get a mish-mash of stuff out of the seeds. One grain of pollen is gonna produce one seed with one stigma. There's no "my two dads" thing that can happen. You can get pollen from different plants hitting the same flower - but each seed is just gonna be A+B.

Honestly reversing more than one and you're just making bagseeds on purpose LOL

Appreciate the response though, it definitely helped solidify that I’m going to have to do things the slower “proper/ traditional” way if I want certain results

 

[Turpman]

Not the best way but I keep my males in a tent by themselves. When the girls are ready, I take a small paint brush and collect a bit of pollen from flowers that just opened. You may get the odd stray pollen on the brush. But I’m thinking it will be 99% from the flower you take from. If you’re doing bulk collection on glass. You would most likely get a lot more stray pollen.

 

[H.A.F.]

Appreciate the response though, it definitely helped solidify that I’m going to have to do things the slower “proper/ traditional” way if I want certain results

Weed growing has never really been a science. There's a lot of un-learning going on now w.r.t. bottled nutrients and recipes being kind of like what BigAg has done with the worlds farmlands.

I think there is a two part reversal recipe that you can just mix a portion up and use now, but then you don't have to save it or anything. the un-mixed components remain stable longer than once they've been 'activated'.

 

[Opie1]

I wouldn’t attempt it, pollen can travel a long way and can ‘stick’ around for who knows how long. I’ve always done it one at a time and probably still got a few beans that were created by stray pollen.
I make fem juice like Heisen does in one his YouTube videos, using the silver rods, phone charger and aquarium pump. It’s pretty simple after you do it a couple times.

 

[SF603]

I wouldn’t attempt it, pollen can travel a long way and can ‘stick’ around for who knows how long. I’ve always done it one at a time and probably still got a few beans that were created by stray pollen.
I make fem juice like Heisen does in one his YouTube videos, using the silver rods, phone charger and aquarium pump. It’s pretty simple after you do it a couple times.

That seems to be the common take, unfortunately going to have to take up the better part of a year to knock out the 2-3 reversals I would like to do, I plan to make STS but the CS vid heisen has is super informative regardless.

 

[H.A.F.]

That seems to be the common take, unfortunately going to have to take up the better part of a year to knock out the 2-3 reversals I would like to do, I plan to make STS but the CS vid heisen has is super informative regardless.

logistics-wise, if you have tents and space there's just the time it takes a reversal to make pollen (?) then the time from pollinating to when you feel comfortable rinsing it all down to kill any live pollen, then you should be good to do another reversal.

I couldd definitely be wrong but the seededd plants shouldn't be affected by a later batch of live pollen that you havde for a different set of moms. In a different tent obviously, but I think the chance of cross contamination would be slim. You'd have to wait until tthe next reversal took and made lots of pollen, and by then the seeded plants are half done.

If you had the prep space to have lots of stuff vegging for the next chucks you could probably do many in a year, or your 2-3 in just a few months. .

 

[H.A.F.]

simple version is that it seems to me it's a lot of prep work, then the month or so waiting on pollen, then the cleanup. But since the prep work is mostly in veg you can keep rotating so you have several projects ready to go.