Jacks 3-2-1 Salts

SCJedi

Synergist
Pollen Chucker
Anyone else mixing their own salts?

So typically when I find phenos that I like while I run them through their paces to test stability, both females and males. I typically run LOS but like to push them hard with bubble buckets and GH Flora.

I got tired of just using DWC buckets to push hydro hard and decided that instead of buying colored salt water and installing a semi-permanent RDWC fixture that I would try coco and Jacks 3-2-1 using Blumats. Holy shit.

I mix 27g at a time, I don't have to PH anything, and I can walk away for 2 weeks and not worry about a thing. I come back, clean up the insides and bottoms of the plants and they just explode on their own.

For my 27g tote I use 75g 5-12-26, 50g of CalNit 15-0-0, and 25g of epsom salts.

The only real issue I seem to have is fungus gnats that came with some moms I am plant sitting. Nothing that BT cannot handle.

Monday:
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Just now:
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Top Roots:
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SCJedi

Synergist
Pollen Chucker
I heard blumats are the shit once you've got them dialed in.. No issues with salt i buildup?
I have the pots on short stands that sit in a deep dish so it mocks DTW. I tweak them a little so there is some runoff. No issues with salt buildup.

My outdoors is setup on Blusoak hose that is fed off of an elevated 55g drum this year. I have not watered my garden a single time yet.

If you have a good application for Blumats then spend the money and get them. I would recommend having Sustainable Village design the system for you.
 
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Gweedo

PICK YOUR OWN
Got another jacks user here as well, startrd with gh3 and then got sucked in and tried the AN ph perfect line with 4 additives $$$
Nuked the girl with that shit, and it was encouraging an unfriendly root condition.
Went to jacks 321 no additives other than hydroguard if mature, or bennie tea for the youngsters. I mix 25 gals of stock solution in liquor bottles, hydro and epsom in 1 and cal nit in the other, little basic math based off my 3 cups of water to 25 gal powder and i dose accordingly to get my desired ppm, not super lazy guy easy but very cost effective and pretty dam good results
 

Cob_nUt

"Justa Ganja Lover"
Used jacks hydro + calcinit as well for about 2 years.I'd still be on it if it weren't for megacrop.
It's definitely much much cleaner than MC. Stable as all get out also. The ability to tweak feeds is a bonus as well.
 
Used jacks hydro + calcinit as well for about 2 years.I'd still be on it if it weren't for megacrop.
It's definitely much much cleaner than MC. Stable as all get out also. The ability to tweak feeds is a bonus as well.

I've been using megacrop for a couple months now. Almost used up a 22.5lb bag so far. It def does not go nearly as far as the Jack's. And the Mega is very dirty with the molasses in it. It settles in tanks and coats everything with residue. It has stopped up my float valve several times because it has a screen in it.

Overall the Jack's is cheaper in the long run even when you calculate in the Epsom salt and Cal mag. I'm still having to use Cal mag in my mega.

For example in my 60 gal top off barrel when I mix up a batch I have to use 1200 ml of solution of megacrop while I use 720 of Jack's for the same ppm. In my megacrop solution I just took the 22.5lb bag and mixed it in 10 gal of water and put it into 2 containers. My Jack's I used like a 1/4 of the 25lb bag.

I'm willing to try another bag of megacrop. Maybe I got a mix that just had way too much molasses in it.
I got several more of his products as well like the Cal mag, bud explosion. Gravitron, sweet candy etc.

Can't say I can tell a difference after a couple months of use from other products. It's cheaper than some other places unless you buy salts like I do.
 

Cob_nUt

"Justa Ganja Lover"
@Greenthumbskunk you used Cal mag in conjunction with the Jack's & Cal nit?
I used a different recipe similar (from ic mag)to 3-2-1 jacks/calnit/Epsom.
I don't have the notes in front of me but iirc it was 3.25 to 2.something no Epsom added. Tap water coming out @<220 ppm. I ran them green till the end.
The tap water in my area must be decent. I haven't purchased or used a cal-mag product,plenty of samples collecting dust.
 

SCJedi

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Pollen Chucker
@Greenthumbskunk you used Cal mag in conjunction with the Jack's & Cal nit?
I used a different recipe similar (from ic mag)to 3-2-1 jacks/calnit/Epsom.
I don't have the notes in front of me but iirc it was 3.25 to 2.something no Epsom added. Tap water coming out @<220 ppm. I ran them green till the end.
The tap water in my area must be decent. I haven't purchased or used a cal-mag product,plenty of samples collecting dust.
The instructions for Jack's is to run 3.6-2.4-1.2 but people dial it back to 3-2-1 for simplicity I suppose. I actually just had a thought while in the idea stimulator (the shower) that maybe my problems are not from Jack's but from dipping my roots into Xtreme Mycos WP. I seem to recall that fried young plants/clones before. I should mix it into the media and let it go from there.

I took extra clones today and will see if I can rinse/purge what is in the coco with some low level GH3 and switch back to jacks at 75% once they recover.
 
@Greenthumbskunk you used Cal mag in conjunction with the Jack's & Cal nit?
I used a different recipe similar (from ic mag)to 3-2-1 jacks/calnit/Epsom.
I don't have the notes in front of me but iirc it was 3.25 to 2.something no Epsom added. Tap water coming out @<220 ppm. I ran them green till the end.
The tap water in my area must be decent. I haven't purchased or used a cal-mag product,plenty of samples collecting dust.

Yes ive used cal mag with every mix ive bought. My well water ppm runs between 27-32. Almost as good as reverse osmosis.

I just bought a bag of Jacks hydro reverse osmosis formula. Havent mixed any up yet but i will within the next couple months.

I just use mega for veg now with added cal mag. Back to masterblend right now for flower with 150 ppm of cal mag added.

Their hydro line.

Feeding charts


 

badmofo529

Grow God
Yes ive used cal mag with every mix ive bought. My well water ppm runs between 27-32. Almost as good as reverse osmosis.

I just bought a bag of Jacks hydro reverse osmosis formula. Havent mixed any up yet but i will within the next couple months.

I just use mega for veg now with added cal mag. Back to masterblend right now for flower with 150 ppm of cal mag added.

Their hydro line.

Feeding charts


Looking forward to seeing how you like that. The 321 is tried and true, but the RO/tap + bloom mix seems like it might be a bit simpler to work with, and a bit cheaper.
 

Cob_nUt

"Justa Ganja Lover"
Yes ive used cal mag with every mix ive bought. My well water ppm runs between 27-32. Almost as good as reverse osmosis.

I just bought a bag of Jacks hydro reverse osmosis formula. Havent mixed any up yet but i will within the next couple months.

I just use mega for veg now with added cal mag. Back to masterblend right now for flower with 150 ppm of cal mag added.

Their hydro line.

Feeding charts


Ahh ok,gotcha.Damn good well water.Tgere are folks that would give their first born for that kinda well water.
 

Cob_nUt

"Justa Ganja Lover"
The instructions for Jack's is to run 3.6-2.4-1.2 but people dial it back to 3-2-1 for simplicity I suppose. I actually just had a thought while in the idea stimulator (the shower) that maybe my problems are not from Jack's but from dipping my roots into Xtreme Mycos WP. I seem to recall that fried young plants/clones before. I should mix it into the media and let it go from there.

I took extra clones today and will see if I can rinse/purge what is in the coco with some low level GH3 and switch back to jacks at 75% once they recover.
Yessir,that's it. Thank you.Crazy,I just used a couple of my old 4gal pails as plant props recently.I should have got the exact numbers as opposed to throwing out random numbers from bad recall,my bad.
I only learned about Jack's because of Delta9 on ICmag and his ppk system. I researched a little bit.on Jack's l,but settled on the ratios he used for the system. This was before 3-2-1formula became popular or at least before I was aware of it. I think greengenes was the person I first saw using it(3-2-1)back when I was watching his and growmau5's cob build videos/tutorials.
 

SCJedi

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Pollen Chucker
Lots of great results coming out of jacks lately. Deff interested in trying it for a couple runs.

a guy on youtube swears by it...greengenesgardens
This is my third full run with Jacks, coco and Blumats in 2g DTW buckets. I use hydro to push ladies to the point of breaking to see how well they take stress before I pollinate them.

I also got tired of buying colored water. I bought different coco each time and think that Tupur has been my favorite so far. I'm running Canna Coco now and its, well, just coconut coir.

Yes, Green Gene has a full Youtube video just dedicated to 3-2-1
 
Yessir,that's it. Thank you.Crazy,I just used a couple of my old 4gal pails as plant props recently.I should have got the exact numbers as opposed to throwing out random numbers from bad recall,my bad.
I only learned about Jack's because of Delta9 on ICmag and his ppk system. I researched a little bit.on Jack's l,but settled on the ratios he used for the system. This was before 3-2-1formula became popular or at least before I was aware of it. I think greengenes was the person I first saw using it(3-2-1)back when I was watching his and growmau5's cob build videos/tutorials.

Ive been using different formulas of jacks for years and years. All of it has been good stuff. Like it much better than mega
 
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